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At 10:14 PM +1100 01/19/2006, david_elmo wrote:
From: Charles Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I downloaded the 10.2.8 combined update and burned it to CD, and have used it several times successfully. (I got tired of the download time
involved in trying to use the 'automatic update' method.)

Is it faster? I wonder why?

Installing locally is always faster -- no DL time.

Yes, I really meant the combined time - remember, one has to spend time downloading the off-line updater. I address a query re this matter of the time this download takes in a follow up to Bruce's post on this.

Which brings me to an issue I have. I don't think I quite like this
software updater where everything is suppose to happen auto.

me either.  But I haven't had it fail yet either.

Recent case, I said yes to yet another Tiger OS  update and I was
given 2 choices after it came down: restart now or shut down!!!! I
am still miffed about this.

Is the process so alzeimic that it can't let one continue

yes.  Some updates leave the OS in a precarious state.

OS X, because of its Unix base, is not like the classic Mac OS.  The
classic Mac OS loads all of its core at boot time.  If you change the
core on disk, so what! It doesn't notice until you reboot!  But *nix
loads only what it needs and grabs things dynamically later.  Because
of the interrelationship between the modules (files on disk), it's
possible to start loading updated things once they've become
incompatible with the running kernel.  oops.  So sometimes you just
MUST reboot.

Again, I raised qs about how all this is done on line in my other post to Bruce. I understand roughly what you are saying. The question is why does it do this part updating (to save time? While downloading for an hour or two or all night, Apple and the Mac itself are like "Hey, this is quite a process, lets do two things at once, while this is coming down, lets see what we can replace and save time later when the guy has to restart.")

Where is the update (obtained auto thru the updater?)

The updater deletes it I think, and only keeps the receipts file
around (which is used by Repair Permissions).

Well, whatever this is about. When I go to the supermarket and get a ton of stuff, the receipt is like a feather, a tiny slip of a paper with - hopefully - a discount petrol coupon at the bottom. The things to do with the updates in the Library/Receipts are significantly weighted objects... receipts, shreceipts... I don't know... :)

Combo updates are available for direct download.

e.g.: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ macosxcombinedupdate1039.html

Saving one of those is what I've done.  I've given up on trying to
track/keep most of the ancialliary product updates.

For me, a rebuild is:  Install from the OS DVD.  Apply the combo
updater.  Let the update gizmo fetch the rest, as needed.

Yes, a plan to note, thanks Dan

David Elmo





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