On the whining, it might have sounded that way by the way it was punctuated, and my screen reader didn't interpret it correctly. If this was the case, I was wrong based on the info to my ears. (grin) Your other point was good. Thanks.

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Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.


Hi Charles,
Two points here.
First, one reason the community at large would like other app store options is because of some of the random things Apple refuses in the apps it allows
to be posted. For example, someone made an app that allowed you to put an
icon on your home screen to toggle Bluetooth on and off. Apple later decided
it didn't want consumers to be able to do that anymore, perhaps because
they'll be adding that functionality in a later version, so the app was
pulled from the store. Now people can't toggle Bluetooth from the home
screen anymore. It's why so many people choose to jailbreak their iPhones.
They want the ability to install apps that are outside of Apple's rather
stringent guidelines. It's the same reason people want smaller government.
They want the freedom to do what they will with the device they paid for.
Second, as to the post below yours, I see some mistaken assumptions about
Apple, and I see some definite opinions expressed by someone who isn't as
into Apple products as you or I, but I'm having trouble finding the whining
you accuse him of. Can you please help me find said whining so I can also
indignantly tell him to stop doing it?
Thanks,
Ryan

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.

As for upgrading your OS, I have never had to pay for any upgrades of Apple iTunes, which is how I transfer info from my Windows PC to my iPhone, and it

was free to begin with.

As for the games for the blind, you are way off base.  What Apple wants is
some kind of background, icons, or both, so that people with eyesight know
that the app is working.  A totally blank screen would possibly indicate
that either the app or the phone is not working.

As for how much control Apple has, I think it is good that they do have this

control, because it makes things secure and, hopefully, virus free, just to
name one thing among several.

Think before you wine.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem Venter" <dwill...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.


This is why I stear clear of apple products. Even though they make a nice
phone and operating system, it's not worth it. They have too much control
over things that a normal user should be allowed to choose about. What do
they know about accessible games anyway?

You can't even change the battery of your phone or upgrade your computer's

hardware without violating their lisence agreement. You can't program for
IOS without using their propriotary tools that cost a lot of money and
then some know it all tech at the app store decides that an audio game
needs graphics.


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