> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dustin Puryear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Clickers wants to start a Linux SIG was RE:
> [brluglist] Re:
> m eeti ng locations?
>
> Well, I'm all for helping new guys and gals out. However, if
> they don't
> chime in or even show up for newbie hour what can we do?
Dustin, you are missing the point. The mailing list and an hour once a month
is not enough. I started the Newbie Hour just a few months ago and even so,
I was not able to schedule a Newbie Hour before every previous meeting since
then. The Newbie Hour is not enough for their needs. I've been asked by
Newbies that it would be more helpful if they could lasso me for a few hours
and ask questions while they are at their machines. I've even made a
housecall for a newbie to help him out. It would be more efficient to have a
regular monthly series of meetings that are geared towards newbies, and the
Clickers Linux SIG is a better way of doing that. All the Clickers want is
for some local Linux users to help them out. By coincedence, BRLUG has local
Linux users.
> Also, I have to counter your statement about an ego issue of late. All of
our recent
> speakers have been very open and ask for questions throughout the
> presentations.
I wasn't talking about the presenters necessarily, and it was said
tongue-in-cheek. My point is that we are talking over the heads of the
newbies, pure and simple.
> >Clickers is an organization that is primarily made of
> newbies, whereas
> >BRLUG is made up of somewhat experienced geeks at least the
> ones that
> >contribute regularly on the list and in the meetings. So, it is not
> >pointless to have a Clickers Linux SIG. In fact, I'd like to
> turn your
> >question around and ask you: What's the harm?
>
> I don't see any harm either way to be honest. However, I
> personally feel that if we have a newbie issue then we should address the
> problem via the newbie hour
How? Why? Is Linux going to be used up if there are two groups in Baton
Rouge that are interested in Linux? Are you volunteering to offer more,
Dustin?
> and by inviting members of the Clickers to the hour.
When they do come, I get the feeling that they need more than I am giving
them. Feel free to help out if you would like. I've asked NUMEROUS times for
volunteers to help out and even tried to bribe them with VIDEOS of CHINESE
MONKS doing incredible FEATS of KUNG FU, but it hasn't generated much (any)
help ('cept for Nate (thanks, Nate!)). The Clickers kind of newbies, I
suspect, want formal, well-prepared introductory training sessions and
tutorials, which I haven't given them.
> If BRLUG members want to work with Clickers on a new Linux SIG that's
fine. My
> concern is that we are spreading the Linux user base a bit thin.
Um, what? You said earlier: "I don't see any harm either way to be honest."
Do you mean no harm to BRLUG? I really want to know what you mean by
"spreading the Linux user base a bit thin".
John Hebert
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