On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:18:16PM +0000, robert burrell donkin wrote: >... > though i do strongly feel that the criticism of jakarta from the board > has been unfair,
Woah woah woah. The Board has not made any such criticism. The topic has never been discussed at a Board meeting. "Greg Stein, ASF Member, and Directory" has particular issues with how the Jakarta PMC is staffed and operated. I also have a viewpoint that I don't think proper oversight and responsibility is being established. I think things occur outside of the bounds of any Jakarta or J-C charter, and the PMC doesn't really notice or take corrective actions. As somebody said, the PMC is responsible for everything, not "some PMC members are responsible for some parts." Jakarta is too big to make that possible. In any case... that is my personal point of view. I wanted to make it clear that it is *NOT* the position of the Board. At the moment, the Board has no position -- it is a problem for the PMC to handle. Only if somebody raises an issue to the Board saying "but the PMC *isn't* handling it", will the Board care. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
