> Adam, please, let me start saying this is (as indicated) a random > though, not a proposal, nor a criticism.
Thanks, but not neccessary, I've had the [RT] myself many times. In the early days of this (as one gent on IM can attest) there were an uncountable number of times I bitched "I could re-write Gump in Java in no time". I still think it is very easy/doable in Java. Maybe it would've been smarter. > > For me it is a beautify folly; so what > > better than to experiment with, to teach some Java folks a new tool, to > > learn Python & get a new perspective on the world? > > If it floats your boat, I'm happy. I'm just concerned that the day you > find something that is more interesting, we are left with a codebase > that nobody knows how to maintain. IMHO, the codebase is the problem, not the language. Trust me, I write Python like I write Java, heck -- I don't know Pythonic Python. ;-) Kinda like I write Perl, kinda like I write .... -- ya know, it all just all tastes like chicken. ;-) Basically, there are a bunch of classes -- maybe too many -- and they need cleaning up, they need documenting, they need opening up to the rest of you. > > BTW: Won't Java (with JDK 1.5 feature) + Groovy and Python be about the same > > thing sooner or later, anyway? ;-) The similarities will outweigh the > > differences. ;-) > > There is a psycological impact in community dynamics that should not be > underestimated. Yup, I hear that. I hope the CleanUp branch was the start of the cleanup, of a simplification. I think we need to enable plug-ins (the easiest way for communities to open up to new developers) and I think we need to fully document/clean the internal design. I've fought so long w/ Python performance that I've not been able to do that, I now feel I can. I don't plan on going anywhere until I've documented Gump, and given Python it's best chance. I think Gumpy is finally warming up & I thank folks for their continued interest/patience... regards Adam --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]