Hi Eli, On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Eli Collins wrote:
> Thanks for writing up a proposal Chris. NP. > > I think it makes sense to have Common live in HDFS at least for now, > since it's at the bottom of the stack / dependency chain and it's code > is the most intertwined with common, and, per Arun, we tend to work on > common stuff more than MR people. The HDFS project is really a lot > more than HDFS, eg has all the hadoop commands, non-HDFS file system > source, etc but that seems like an OK starting point. We need to > figure out the committers and PMC though since the goal is to just > have the HDFS community (vs the current Hadoop people) but the project > will contain non-HDFS stuff. I'd like to hear from the current Hadoop > committers and PMC members that mostly work on MR and YARN - are you > guys OK losing your current privileges on the HDFS repo? Rather than ask the former question that way, I would just simply put up a list of proposed HDFS PMC folks (yes, I keep using PMC ^_^). Then, iterate on that. > Otherwise we > haven't made much progress (ie HDFS still has multiple communities). ACK. > > We also need to address the areas where it's not so cut and dry, eg > where there is a single Hadoop project: > - The Hadoop trademark, assume this lives in the HDFS project if Common does? Apache owns the Hadoop trademark, and the PMC helps to enforce it. Projects don't own trademarks. > - The user community, eg the users lists that we *just* merged, shall > we still keep one list? That's a good question -- maybe ask users to opt-in. Yes, this is intrusive, but I bet you'd find the real users of the specific projects if they have to resubscribe. Just my 2c. > - We should move the global stuff like "how to get started" docs to > Bigtop, which can point to individual projects resources Sounds cool to me. > - Hadoop 1.x is is maintenance mode, though it still actively gets > patches so we need to consider it. The surgery necessary to split v1 > Hadoop is probably not suitable for a sustaining release and not worth > it at this point in the lifetime of this branch. I assume the HDFS > project will then host the Hadoop 1.x branches? This implies only > members of the HDFS project can commit and release. Why not put the 1.x stuff in Bigtop since it's global or whatever? Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
