+1 Please don't do this again.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Todd Lipcon <t...@cloudera.com> wrote: > Have we not learned our lessons from the last attempts to split? > > The issues in our community, which I think Chris is referring to, do > not generally revolve around project boundaries. It's not the case > that the HDFS community wants to go one way and the MR/YARN community > wants to go another, and we get into a conflict around it. If it were, > then splitting into separate TLPs would make a ton of sense. > > Instead, the issues are usually _within_ a component. So, if we split > into 3 TLPs, then we'll just have 3 TLPs, each of which is just as > contentious as before. > > Let's just embrace contention as a fact of life on a high-profile > high-stakes project and get back to work. > > I wasted nearly a month undoing the mess of the last attempt, and I > don't see why this time it would go any better. -1 from my perspective > on splitting again at this point. Perhaps if we get to the point that > we're never making cross-project commits it makes sense, but we're not > there still. > > -Todd > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com> > wrote: > > I volunteer to help cleanup/normalize Maven stuff. > > > > Thx > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Tom White <t...@cloudera.com> wrote: > >> Eric - I agree with Common being included in HDFS. That's what I meant > >> by Common not having a clear enough mission to be a TLP by itself. > >> > >> Arun - I'm happy to RM some of the upcoming MR releases too. Also to > >> help out with the work on audience annotations and compatibility. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Tom > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com> > wrote: > >>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > >>>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Suresh Srinivas wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Robert and Alejandro have brought up good questions. Here are my > thoughts: > >>>>> - For first one or two releases all the projects can coordinate and > do the > >>>>> releases together. This should help simplify the immediate work > needed. > >>>>> This should also help in us meeting the release timelines that we are > >>>>> working towards. As the split makes progress, this cross project > >>>>> coordination will no longer be necessary. I volunteer to RM these > releases > >>>>> and do the needed co-ordination from HDFS. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> +1 seems like a reasonable first step. Thanks for volunteering Suresh. > >>> > >>> Also, I'd say we make at least 3-4 alpha/beta releases in this shape. > >>> > >>> I volunteer to RM for MR/YARN releases and work with Suresh. > >>> > >>> Arun > >>> > > > > > > > > -- > > Alejandro > > > > -- > Todd Lipcon > Software Engineer, Cloudera > -- Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
