On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hey Eli, > > On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Eli Collins wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) >> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> Hey Eli, >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Eli Collins wrote: >>> >>>>>> [..snip..] >>>>>> - The Hadoop trademark, assume this lives in the HDFS project if Common >>>>>> does? >>>>> >>>>> Apache owns the Hadoop trademark, and the PMC helps to enforce it. >>>>> Projects >>>>> don't own trademarks. >>>> >>>> But which PMC does "the PMC" refer to though given that there is no >>>> longer a Hadoop PMC? >>> >>> Probably the collective set of PMCs that are created, along with >>> trademarks@, >>> and along with other members of the Foundation. >>> >> >> But what are we enforcing as the "Hadoop" trademark if there is no >> longer a Hadoop product release? > > Well Hadoop as a trademark, registered by the ASF, will remain. It doesn't go > away, > whether there is an explicit Hadoop TLP or product that TLP releases or not. > I'd imagine as a PMC member once > on the Hadoop TLP before it went away, you could choose to enforce the Hadoop > trademarks by working with > trademarks@ in the same way that you currently do, or don't, or whatever. > > And "enforce" is a loose word, since everyone's idea of "enforce" with > respect to Apache > PMCs and trademarks and so forth somewhat differs. > > My 2c. >
I get that part, just not sure what we'd be enforcing. A concrete proposal will need to figure out what this means once there is no such thing as a Hadoop release. See http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Defining%20Hadoop for some relevant background on an old proposal that didn't go anywhere.