Ok, thanks for the feedback. I'll open a discussion for this on the whirr list/jira.
Patrick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > Normally, when you ship the dependency together with your own > product/project, then (AFAIK) that bigger work needs the NOTICE. If > you don't ship it, let's say that you call it a "System Requirement" > or "Optional Plugin", then you don't need it. > > > ALSO, more importantly, it looks like Voldemort depends on BDB Java > Edition, which I think was discussed at length some years ago on > legal-discuss@ but is not mentioned explicitly on > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. I think the problem is that > it seems to demand that all downstream users must ship source code, > i.e. some odd form of virality. Even more reasons to check with the > Legal committee... > > Cheers > Niclas > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under >>>> Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this: >>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#required-third-party-notices >>> >>> See paragraph 4.4 of Apache License ver 2.0. >>> If Voldemort contains a NOTICE file, then it must be carried forward. >>> If it doesn't, IMHO you should have an entry in NOTICE that says the >>> work contains the Voldemort component. >> >> Hm, it does have a notice, it's pretty big/hairy: >> https://github.com/voldemort/voldemort/blob/master/NOTICE >> >> perhaps you can help me understand this a bit better, 4.4 addresses >> "Derivative Works", which afaict whirr is not: >> >> ""Derivative Works" shall mean any work, whether in Source or Object >> form, that is based on (or derived from) the Work and for which the >> editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications >> represent, as a whole, an original work of authorship. For the >> purposes of this License, Derivative Works shall not include works >> that remain separable from, or merely link (or bind by name) to the >> interfaces of, the Work and Derivative Works thereof." >> >> as whirr is "merely linking to the interfaces of" the work (whirr >> pulls in the jar file of/from voldemort) and not making any >> revision/annotation/....modifications of the original. Am I not >> reading that right? (IANAL) >> >> I also notice in 4.4 where is says "excluding those notices that do >> not pertain to any part of the Derivative Works". Given that whirr is >> only including a single jar - from voldemort itself, not >> jetty/junit/etc... would it not be correct to say that these other >> notices do not pertain to whirr's use? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Patrick >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > > I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk > I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j > I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
