Upayavira wrote: > I have one (hopefully) simple question for those more familiar with the > ASF\s bylaws/etc. > > As I understand it, the board has delegated responsibility for the > incubator, and thus incubator podlings, to the Incubator PMC and its > members. Thus, it is only members of the Incubator PMC that have the > ability to vote. This much is straight-forward. > > So, the question is, what options does the Incubator PMC have in terms > of further delegating responsibility? Can the Incubator PMC delegate > (some) responsibility to people who are not themselves incubator PMC > members? To do so, does the Incubator PMC need to inform the board of > the change of composition of 'sub-committees'? > > My thought is that if we can clarify what is legally possible, we will > be better placed to find the appropriate model for the incubator that > fits within those legal/bylaw bounds.
I was wondering the same. This seems to enable such: "RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Incubator Project." http://incubator.apache.org/official/resolution.html -David > Upayavira > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013, at 06:47 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > > Certainly this is being addressed and fixed in the current 1.0.1 > > > release thread... > > > > Indeed. > > > > > So why is something 2 months old such a bee in your bonnet right now? > > > > I chose to highlight the Allura situation because it illustrates that > > IPMC > > release vote scarcity can strike your podling at any time regardless of > > how > > virtuous and healthy it is. If it can happen to Allura, a podling with > > fabulous contributors and outrageously qualified Mentors, it can happen > > to > > anyone. > > > > I could have instead cited other lengthy release votes: VXQuery (over a > > month > > now and still waiting), ODF Toolkit (20 days), Droids (probably the > > all-time > > record holder), Bloodhound (so frustrating that Brane coded up the voting > > monitor), ManifoldCF... but none of those podlings boasted Allura's > > all-star > > Mentor lineup. > > > > The point was to pick a podling with Mentors whose dedication to the ASF > > was > > unassailable ("AWOL Mentors" don't attend Board meetings!) because then > > nobody > > could blame the delay on insufficient Mentor dedication. I don't think > > it's a > > bad thing that podling core developers are inherently more invested in > > their > > projects than Mentors -- it's just a fact of life that we ought to > > accommodate > > ourselves to. Vote scarcity is not the fault of any one Mentor, or any > > group > > of Mentors -- it's just a phenomenon which is *guaranteed* to happen some > > of > > the time because the Incubator is structurally flawed. > > > > Still, because my point was awkwardly crafted, I wound up singling out > > the > > Allura team in a negative context. I apologize for my clumsiness. > > > > Marvin Humphrey > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
