On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2014, at 21:27, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >>> That said, reminding people of the "release often and early" thing is > >>> good to do, > >>> but also have in mind that incubator releases are very difficult to > >>> make. > >> > >> Unlike Christian (another Wave mentor :-) ), I am generally in support > >> of this proposal. If a project cannot get a release out, then it > >> suggests insufficient weight behind it. Releasing software is what the > >> ASF is about. It is acceptable that a mature ASF project, one that is > >> code-complete, doesn't release regularly, but an incubator project would > >> not fall into that camp, therefore being able to say "we can muster the > >> resources to make a 'legally valid release' within a year seems > >> eminently reasonable to me. > >> > > > > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline > > > > In total, from entering incubation to first release was 11 months and > > a week. So this confirms that a year, for most projects should be > > sufficient. But there could be exceptions, due to factors similar to > > those I listed above. But such exceptions should be rare. > > Indeed the OOo was an impressive amount of work. > > Reading comments from Upayavira and Rob, I am willing to support > the "relaxed" proposal of Roman. I would prefer mine, but > we can always do modifications as we see fit. > > As it seems i was the only sceptic, we can try to formulate a patch > for our policies. > > > You aren't the only sceptic, i'm not enthusiastic about having such specific policy about release time frames either. Some projects are just slow, having a deadline like that could just make them get a release out of low quality without much care just to tick the box. Looking at clutch these are the current podlings and age which are older than a year and have no release: Aurora 267 BatchEE 265 DeviceMap 904 Kalumet 1009 Ripple 617 Samza 330 Streams 582 Usergrid 265 Wave 1299 Maybe their mentors should just go have a conversation with them about it? ...ant
