I agree with pretty much everything said, although as always Jon words it a tad more strongly than I ever would. :)
Let the community decide. If 51% of the developers want to use XSL, or DVSL, then that's what you should use. If you don't like it, prove that your alternative is better. But dropping a whole project because of a detail is needless. - Morgan --- Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/2/02 8:44 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Same here, I'll -1 a switch to either maven or > centipede on the projects I > > have a vote on until they find a way to work > togheter. > > > > DVSL may be a nice language, but XSLT is the > standard - regardless of how > > you play with the word. I'm fine with a tool that > supports both. > > > > Costin > > You guys are so funny. > > Bike Sheds > ---------- > > At first, people -1'd the use of Anakia to generate > the Jakarta website. But > then when I took the effort to make it simple and > easy to use and took away > the bike shed argument, people adopted it and used > it all over the world. > > On top of it, in *years*, no one has gone and > replaced Jakarta-site2 with > anything better. Sure, Craig did a XSLT stylesheet, > but no one changed the > main Jakarta site to use it and I still see new > Anakia sites on > Sourceforget.net all the time. > > The next thing to replace jakarta-site2 will be > Maven. Just like with > Anakia, I honestly don't care if you -1 it. You > aren't doing the work and > therefore your argument against it is simply a bike > shed and is thus not > valid in my opinion. > > Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all > learned that you can't > force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 > on it. Given our > history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to > argue for something like > that. You hypocrite. > > Learning Technology > ------------------- > > The argument about learning minor technologies to > make money is so silly it > is funny. I have owned/started several companies now > and have been > responsible for hiring or directly approving the > hiring of about 50-60 > people over the last 10 years. Not a huge amount, > but not small either. > > Never once did I think to myself, hmmm...that person > knows minor technology > X better than minor technology Y. What I cared the > most about was that the > person had a general good skill set and the aptitude > to learn something new. > So, if learning DVSL vs. XSLT is beyond your > aptitude, I probably would not > have hired you anyway. > > On top of it, the mentality of having to fit into > the box because everyone > else is doing it would make me instantly not like > your personality. I like > people who are free thinkers and who can think > outside of the box. Software > is an art form, not something that you can just > cookie cutter produce (and > have it come out being any good). IMHO, it is the > free thinkers that have > the most creative and bug free code. Thinking > outside of the box shows that > you care about the code and systems you are > creating. > > People > ------ > > Needless to say, the attitudes here are becoming > more and more familiar. > Andrew reminds me of the early days of dealing with > Peter Donald (credit to > Peter for eventually coming to his senses...I think > joining the PMC helped). > Steven reminds me of Paulo. Deja vu! > > :-) > > -jon > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ===== Morgan Delagrange http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs http://jakarta.apache.org/commons http://axion.tigris.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
