Hello,
I'm attaching previous correspondence below with the background for this 
question:
 
I've been following a certain gen, Snhg12, in mouse mm9 for a while and am 
perplexed by how UCSC manages its tables.
 
Initially I downloaded the refGene.sql and refGene.txt files from the mouse 
downloads page and copied them into my local MySQL version of UCSC (I have a 
couple tables stored locally for quick and easy access).
 
This table (from about 2 years ago) doesn't contain the Snhg12 gene.
I later came across the gene in the UCSC browser and noticed it was Refseq 
provisional status (light blue).
 
I assumed that's why I don't see it in my local refGene table, but I asked 
about it below to see if I might find it somewhere.
 
Upon receiving the answer I tried Vanessa's suggestion (below) which worked.
The Snhg12 gene was in the results with provisional status.
 
I recently retried Vanessa's suggestion and noticed that the status has been 
updated to "Validated" in both the table browser and the genome browser.
 
So I have three different results for Snhg12 depending on when and how I access 
the data, yet all of them belong to the same 'mm9' version!
 
Isn't this a litle problematic?  Is there a reason why these changes aren't 
saved up for 'mm10'?
 
The implications for my research and perhaps others' as well is that when we 
say 'mm9' it isn't the same thing and something that was 'intergenic' one day 
is now an 'exon' for example.
 
Am I missing something here?  I'm just trying to do as precise research as 
possible so as not to mislead...
 
Thanks,
 
Ilana
 
 
 
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Dear Ilana,

Please see this previously answered mailing list question that tells how to get 
the status data using the table browser:

https://lists.soe.ucsc.edu/pipermail/genome/2008-January/015354.html

The data that you are looking for is located in this table: "refSeqStatus" in 
the mm9 database.

Hope this helps! If you have further questions, please contact the mailing list 
([email protected]).

Vanessa Kirkup Swing
UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ilana Livyatan" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:56:58 AM
Subject: [Genome] Getting Provisional Refseq genes

Hi,
I've downloaded the mysql versions of refgene mm9 and have a local database 
going.  I noticed that this version doesn't include the provisional 
annotations.  They do appear in the genome browser as a track with lighter blue 
color.
How do I access and download these provisional Refseq annotations?
I don't want all the UCSC known genes which seem to include these provisionals 
but a way to identify them as a separate group.

Thanks for the help!

Ilana Livyatan
Dr. Eran Meshorer's Lab
Department of Genetics
Room 2-544, Givat Ram
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Jerusalem, 91904 ISRAEL
Tel: 972-2-6585143 Fax: 972-2-6586975
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