On 18/08/2014 07:27, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 17.08.2014 um 23:09 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 17/08/2014 20:47, Henrique Lengler wrote: >>> I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. >>> koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux >>> world are being recreated by KDE. >>> >>> Whats the problem to use things that already exists? >>> Why don't include software that is famous and liked by people insted of >>> insist in their "K"things? >>> >> >> You can't be serious right? >> >> Go back and find the original post from the founder of KDE as to why KDE >> was started at all. It's all about incoherent, mis-matched, >> ugly-when-bundled together apps that do not work in sympathy. This is >> still true today. >> >> Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort >> of plugin that all KDE apps can share. This gives the user a fantastic >> degree of abstraction because anything that represents data can be a >> kpart. NFS mounts, smb shares, ssh, some weird random new thing - all of >> them show up in the file manager. Drag and drop works because of this. >> >> Consistent look and feel amongst KDE apps is probably the best reason >> for KDE's existence at all. But let's continue with your argument. What >> are these things that "already exist"? Nautilus? Why should KDE *not* >> implement a file manager? Should we ditch Dolphin in favour of Nautilus? >> Or something else perhaps? Should we drop Okular and tell everyone to >> just use xpdf instead? OMGF, have you actually *used* that piece of >> shit? Can you figure out *how* to use it? I can't - buttons all over the >> place in weird places.... xpdf is probably the best example of why KDE >> was started. >> >> I think I will stop now and wait for you to list the 100s of apps that >> already existed before related KDE apps were released, so we can see >> what these adequate replacements are. >> >> > you know.. konqueror came before nautilus....
Yes, I know that :-) Most of KDE existed before most of Gnome... ...and a large reason why the gnome project started at all was concerns about the original Qt license terms. It was a licensing complaint, not a technical complaint Henrique's statement/complaint about KDE re-inventing the wheel holds very little water. In fact, if we switch it around and complain about the existence of g* apps when perfectly adequate k* apps already existed, we'd be closer to the actual truth. The reality is that people and devs are going to scratch their itch and code whatever they feel like. We live in the real world where people do whatever they want; the corporate fantasy where you only work on the approved projects/apps that some overlord says you can work on just doesn't exist at all. And this is why we in the FLOSS work have the magical wonderland of vast amounts of choice -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
