Dear Alan,

I don't think it's so ridiculous.  There is a lot of agreement about the 
seriousness of the situation, and that just reducing emissions is not 
the whole solution.

Kind regards,

John


Alan Robock wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> Don't be ridiculous.  There is no consensus among readers of this 
> group. A few of you are completely gung ho, with no interest in 
> evaluating the risks as well as the benefits of any policy 
> recommendation, but that does not represent the views of very many.
>
> Of course, you are free to write any sort of "manifesto" that you 
> want, but don't claim that it represents a consensus of more than the 
> individuals that end up signing it.
>
> Alan
>
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>
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Nissen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I have been subscribed to this group for well over a year, and have seen
>> a great deal of valuable information produced.  I have seen discussions
>> and consensus reached.  We have a great deal of expertise among us.  But
>> I fear much of our understanding of how to tackle the global environment
>> crisis is being lost in the blogosphere.
>>
>> So I propose that we, as a geoengineering group, should work together to
>> produce a manifesto for geoengineering.  This would: describe the state
>> of the Earth's climate system, identify critical risks, put the case for
>> geoengineering, consider how side-effects can be avoided or minimised,
>> and suggest when is the best time for geoengineering action.  Otherwise
>> we will finding ourselves saying the same things again and again over
>> the coming months and years. And we need a reasonably solid position
>> statement on which to peg further developments of ideas, which may be
>> more speculative.
>>
>> A manifesto would allow particular members to contribute their
>> particular expertise, and have it scrutinised by others from different
>> viewpoints.
>>
>> I would be will to help in preparing such a manifesto, which would be an
>> open document, but subject to editing control, perhaps on the lines of
>> wikipedia. (Andrew might advise on this, with his wikipedia
>> experience.)  However it should be open to the latest thinking (and it
>> would not be sensored in the way that sometimes happens on wikipedia re
>> geoengineering).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> >>

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