Ciao Robert,
It is probably worth giving a try to using the 32bits version and
checking if native JAI works fine.

At the same time it should not be a tremendous hit in performance
using right away a 64 bits jvm.

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Langford, Robert
<robert.langf...@salford.gov.uk> wrote:
> Simone,
>
> Thank you for your comments and the link.
>
> Regarding:
>
>         5) Use 64-bit JRE so no JAI (anyone have experience on performance 
> differences?)
>
>         "The difference will not be dramatic. In most cases it will be 5% to 
> 10%."
>
> Is that a 5-10% reduction in performance?  Is it still worth using the 64-bit 
> version of Tomcat/Geoserver, as opposed to the 32-bit version with the JAI 
> extensions?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simbo...@gmail.com [mailto:simbo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Simone 
> Giannecchini
> Sent: 28 June 2013 18:05
> To: Langford, Robert
> Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] Setting Up New Windows Server
>
> Ciao Robert,
> please, read my comments inline below...
>
> In addition at this link you can find:
>
> - a document useful for creating a clustered set up on windows using tomcat 
> and IIS. There are a few tips and tricks there.
> - an skeleton instance of Tomcat preconfigured to run on windows with 
> multiple instances of geoserver
>
> Here is the link:
> http://goo.gl/Hd6F5
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
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>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Langford, Robert 
> <robert.langf...@salford.gov.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan & Christian - Thanks for your input.
>>
>>
>>
>> So in summary for my set up, best option is looking like:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      Using Tomcat (64-bit) as a servlet and using the Geoserver WAR file
>>
>> 2)      Use JRE (unless further monitoring needed, then use JDK)
>>
>> 3)      Use JRE6
>>
>> 4)      Run Geoserver as a "Windows service" (through/via Tomcat)
>
> I agree with all these steps.
>>
>> 5)      Use 64-bit JRE so no JAI (anyone have experience on performance 
>> differences?)
>
> The difference will not be dramatic. In most cases it will be 5% to 10%.
>
>>
>> 6)      Upgrading to new point releases; as now using Tomcat, more options 
>> available than via standard Windows installer
>
> Correct. You only need to stop tomcat remove the old war and drop the new one.
>
> Make sure to:
> -1- use an external data directory
> -2- back up the current data dir prior to an upgrade
> -3- put data outside the data directory (backups are easier to perform).
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd appreciate it if anyone else has any further thoughts on these points.  
>> I never quite grasped the reason to use Tomcat as Geoserver works out the 
>> box with Jetty; felt like it added an extra layer for little benefit, but 
>> starting to see why.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
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