Reminds me of the Thai address system in Bangkok. Growing up in Micronesia we didn't have street names. Directions were just that. Mail was all PO boxes.
Look at map sheets in Vietnam and you'll see 5 villages with the same "name" on a single topo. Of course the locals have ways to distinguish but it isn't captured. Doesn't make gazetteers useless, you just have to face the reality that a global unambiguous one to the local level is absurd. That's what coordinate systems are for, but people don't use them in daily life. For specific scopes they can work adequately enough. Package delivery companies and taxi drivers understand this well enough. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:18, "Mr. Puneet Kishor" <punk.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Sean Gillies wrote: > >> Josh (and all), >> >> IIRC, in our gazetteering session at the 2011 AAG a panel concluded that >> the era of global place or feature type taxonomies was over. Do you think >> that's still a valid conclusion? Should schema.org be advised to stay away >> from this area? > > > I am not sure there ever was an era of *globally* valid taxonomies. Locally, > yes, they would be very useful. For example, would work in the US. But, I am > in Northern India right now, and jeebus... would never work given the chaos > here. Here is a real address > > E1/F, <-- house number > "Y" Block <-- because the building looks like two Ys from the air [1] > River Bank Colony, > Near Letter Box <-- seriously, am not making it up > City, State, Postcode, etc. > > [1]: http://bit.ly/LWGwaW > > The above is one of the sane ones. At least all the words are in english. > Many, many addresses have english words transliterated into Hindi or Urdu (or > whatever the local language may be) > > That said, there is some semblance of system for administrative entities, > which, of course, vary from region to region. My bet is there is some sort of > "official" hierarchical system which is loosely followed. Geonames.org does > do a pretty nice job because it is all locally sourced, but it also has a lot > of repeats and spelling mistakes, etc. > >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Joshua Lieberman <j...@oklieb.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ... so what might we say of it in Schema.org? >>> >>> Well, maybe we would say it's an Island? Pretty tough, >>> http://schema.org/Landform has Volcano and Continent but no island. >>> Are there standard medium-sized lists of expected values we should be >>> using here? >>> >>> >>> From Geonames.org:ISLislanda tract of land, smaller than a continent, >>> surrounded by water at high waterISLETisletsmall island, bigger than >>> rock, smaller than island.ISLFartificial islandan island created by >>> landfill or diking and filling in a wetland, bay, or lagoonISLMmangrove >>> islanda mangrove swamp surrounded by a waterbodyISLSislandstracts of >>> land, smaller than a continent, surrounded by water at high >>> waterISLTland-tied >>> islanda coastal island connected to the mainland by barrier beaches, >>> levees or dikesISLXsection of islandISTHisthmusa narrow strip of land >>> connecting two larger land masses and bordered by water >>> >>> >>> Ok so picking from http://schema.org/Place ... let's go with >>> http://schema.org/TouristAttraction. Maybe we'll describe the island, >>> and then use Place's containedIn relation to describe the city (also >>> called Korcula) that's on the island. >>> >>> So, it's a thing of type http://schema.org/TouristAttraction ... it >>> has a 'geo' property pointing to a thing that is of type >>> http://schema.org/GeoShape ... which in turn has a 'polygon' property >>> whose value is the Text, >>> >>> "17.052154541015, 42.984695434571 17.108459472656, 42.969589233399 >>> 17.140045166015, 42.962722778321 17.166137695312, 42.942123413087 >>> 17.181243896484, 42.929763793946 17.212829589844, 42.922897338868 >>> 17.208709716797, 42.898178100587 17.177124023437, 42.898178100587 >>> 17.090606689453, 42.895431518555 16.964263916015, 42.911911010743 >>> 16.839294433594, 42.87208557129 16.833801269531, 42.888565063477 >>> 16.732177734375, 42.895431518555 16.725311279297, 42.892684936524 >>> 16.670379638672, 42.910537719727 16.656646728515, 42.896804809571 >>> 16.618194580078, 42.927017211915 16.658020019531, 42.95997619629 >>> 16.658020019531, 42.962722778321 16.603088378906, 43.001174926758 >>> 16.658020019531, 43.008041381837 16.857147216797, 42.979202270508 >>> 17.052154541015, 42.984695434571". >>> >>> As discussed earlier, the first and last pairs are identical. >>> >>> I could write this out long-hand in Microdata or RDFa Lite, but the >>> basic model is the key concern. I think we're getting somewhere, >>> thanks for your help! >>> >>> Nearby in the Web, Wikipedia has pages for both island and city, >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor%C4%8Dula and >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor%C4%8Dula_(town)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor%C4%8Dula_%28town%29> >>> >>> It's also btw the alleged-birthplace-of >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo but let's get the basics >>> working first :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geowanking mailing list >>> Geowanking@geowanking.org >>> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sean Gillies >> _______________________________________________ >> Geowanking mailing list >> Geowanking@geowanking.org >> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > Geowanking@geowanking.org > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list Geowanking@geowanking.org http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org
