(BTW, here is the date formatted incorrectly because the bug is so common in Linux systems including web services:)
Dnia 20 kwiecień 2017 o 01:39 Piotr Drąg <piotrd...@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > 2017-04-20 1:08 GMT+02:00 Rafal Luzynski <digitalfr...@lingonborough.com>: > > 19.04.2017 16:19 David Sapienza <david.sapie...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> So I agree with fios: I think that it is better to use the "O" > >> modifier (%OB) for the genitive form (in the languages that uses > >> it) while we should keep the %B for the nominative form. > > > > OK. Again I don't agree here but I'm collecting opinions here and > > trying to explain my point of view. It does not mean that other > > people must agree with me and does not mean I will not change > > my mind in the future. Although at this moment I am strongly > > convinced to my opinion. > > > > But am I correct to assume that with your solution, languages which > don’t need different standalone and “format” forms would just always > return the nominative (standalone) form? I.e. basically nothing > changes for them? Yes, definitely, always nominative. They may not even have a separate genitive form. More precisely: this depends on what they put in their locale database [1] but if they don't need/don't want/don't have genitives they will not put them there. > For example, *with* your patches to glibc: > > Original string is “%B %d”, which in the en_US locale expands to “April 20”. > > Polish translation is “%d %B”, which correctly gives us “20 > kwietnia[genitive]“. Exactly like that. Also compare: "%OB %d" in en_US → "April 20" (because there is no other form in English) "%d %OB" in Polish → "20 kwiecień" (nominative - incorrect! but you get what you wanted) "%OB" is an alternative form, this means it's not intended to be normally used except in special situations like when the month name is displayed standalone. "%B" should automagically work correctly in most cases. > Translation to a hypothetical Western language that doesn’t employ > genitive in this context is also “%d %B”, which correctly gives us “20 > aprilo[nominative]“. You don't need a hypothetical language: that's how it will work in English, French, Italian, German, and many more. :-) > This is how every other platform works right now. Yes, this means BSD [2] and OS X [3] where glib2 and other GNOME libraries are intended to work correctly. Best regards, Rafal [1] https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=tree;f=localedata/locales;hb=HEAD [2] https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=strftime&sektion=3 [3] https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/strftime.3.html _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
