Dear Rochelle,
If I may suggest to you to limit your study to one village, which would allow
for better patterns to emerge. A village like Nuvem (my village) for instance
is of immense interest because of the myriad of hierarchies, inclusions and
exclusions to land ownership. Here you will find the full breadth of migratory
settlements. On the one hand the Gaudda populations who are the landless but
now settled on Church property. For generations they lived on tracts of land
owned by absentee bhatkars, mostly living in Portugal. The land after
independence was sold off. On these sale deeds you will find mention of
'curumbin' which refers to the indigenous populations. Some of the land was
claimed by mundkars after the mundkari laws came into effect. Some of it was
bought by men like my father who prospered in the Gulf. The village further
down the road is populated by former bakers, the petty-bourgeoise class who
claim to be chardos. Their sons have made their money working on board ships.
The concept of the Guankari is not much prevalent in Nuvem, but it is prevalent
in say Velsao, just 30 minutes down the road. This in itself needs
investigation.
Good luck, much to investigate.Selma
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 at 12:17:32 BST, Rochelle Fernandes
<rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for your insights. I'll keep this in mind.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 16:32 William Robert Da Silva <wrdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I found it difficult to begin with land-owning families and then go
over to the labour in the field from 1988-1997. There have been many
political interventions in land-owning in Goa as far as I have worked
on it. I continued this in Kanara in researching the migrant
possession of land and their labour. Even that was difficult because
the British and Indian governments changed land relations. There is a
lot to research here.
Willam Robert Da Silva
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 8:42 PM Rochelle Fernandes
<rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Helga
>
> Thank you so much for sharing resources. I'm only interested in the
> landholding families as this will help me make sense of labour relations.
>
> Thank you for your insights.
>
> Regards
> Rochelle
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 20:31 Helga do Rosario Gomes <helgadorosa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rochelle,
>> There is also this newer resource by the Indian govt. If you stick in the
>> Form 1 and 14 number then you get the map of the property as a shape
>> file/image etc. I really prefer this one over the earlier one
>> https://bhunaksha.goa.gov.in/bhunaksha/
>> Are you interested in the land holdings of wealthy families of then? Unless
>> that info is cited anonymously you would find it hard to get information.
>> Land is highly contentious in Goa now because of the astronomical prices and
>> siblings, uncles,aunts and cousins are fighting long battles in court. Many
>> of these battles involve daughters who while eligible don't are often ousted
>> from their share and the courts run at the pace of turtles.
>> Best,
>> Helga
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:23 AM Bedi, Heather <be...@dickinson.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Rochelle and Frederick,
>>>
>>> It is a great idea to map the land. There is a free online mapping resource
>>> you can use:
>>>
>>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Heather
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> I'm looking at late 1800s and/or early 1900s. I just want to get an idea of
>>> the concentration of such families. I then want to map the same.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm writing a social history of Goa for my thesis and this mapping would
>>> help me make sense of the following chapters that focus on labour.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 14:58 Frederick Noronha <fredericknoron...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Landowning patterns seem to change in different parts of the state,
>>> especially those in which comunidades ceased to exist, or are virtually
>>> extinct. The connection between politics and landholding in post-1961 Goan
>>> politics also doesn't seem to have been adequately studied. Also, I often
>>> wonder whether some properties of extinguished religious Orders ended up in
>>> private hands in parts of Goa? Just random thoughts to unanswered questions
>>> in my mind.... FN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 13:54, Rochelle Fernandes
>>> <rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Catholic Landowning families*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 13:41 Rochelle Fernandes
>>> <rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good day
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any information on landowning families from Colonial Goa?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking to conduct a survey where I map the "big families" (whoever
>>> they may be!) and their estates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know. Any information is highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Rochelle Fernandes
>>>
>>> Research scholar
>>>
>>> Dept. of Humanities and Social Sciences
>>>
>>> BITS Pilani KK Birla Goa Campus
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