Thank you so much for your suggestions, Selma. All duly noted. Regards Rochelle
On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 14:03 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net < goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Dear Rochelle, > > If I may suggest to you to limit your study to one village, which would > allow for better patterns to emerge. A village like Nuvem (my village) for > instance is of immense interest because of the myriad of hierarchies, > inclusions and exclusions to land ownership. Here you will find the full > breadth of migratory settlements. On the one hand the Gaudda populations > who are the landless but now settled on Church property. For generations > they lived on tracts of land owned by absentee bhatkars, mostly living in > Portugal. The land after independence was sold off. On these sale deeds you > will find mention of 'curumbin' which refers to the indigenous populations. > Some of the land was claimed by mundkars after the mundkari laws came into > effect. Some of it was bought by men like my father who prospered in the > Gulf. The village further down the road is populated by former bakers, the > petty-bourgeoise class who claim to be chardos. Their sons have made their > money working on board ships. The concept of the Guankari is not much > prevalent in Nuvem, but it is prevalent in say Velsao, just 30 minutes down > the road. This in itself needs investigation. > > Good luck, much to investigate. > Selma > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 at 12:17:32 BST, Rochelle Fernandes < > rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thank you for your insights. I'll keep this in mind. > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 16:32 William Robert Da Silva <wrdsi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I found it difficult to begin with land-owning families and then go > over to the labour in the field from 1988-1997. There have been many > political interventions in land-owning in Goa as far as I have worked > on it. I continued this in Kanara in researching the migrant > possession of land and their labour. Even that was difficult because > the British and Indian governments changed land relations. There is a > lot to research here. > Willam Robert Da Silva > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 8:42 PM Rochelle Fernandes > <rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Helga > > > > Thank you so much for sharing resources. I'm only interested in the > landholding families as this will help me make sense of labour relations. > > > > Thank you for your insights. > > > > Regards > > Rochelle > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 20:31 Helga do Rosario Gomes < > helgadorosa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Rochelle, > >> There is also this newer resource by the Indian govt. If you stick in > the Form 1 and 14 number then you get the map of the property as a shape > file/image etc. I really prefer this one over the earlier one > >> https://bhunaksha.goa.gov.in/bhunaksha/ > >> Are you interested in the land holdings of wealthy families of then? > Unless that info is cited anonymously you would find it hard to get > information. Land is highly contentious in Goa now because of the > astronomical prices and siblings, uncles,aunts and cousins are fighting > long battles in court. Many of these battles involve daughters who while > eligible don't are often ousted from their share and the courts run at the > pace of turtles. > >> Best, > >> Helga > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:23 AM Bedi, Heather <be...@dickinson.edu> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Rochelle and Frederick, > >>> > >>> It is a great idea to map the land. There is a free online mapping > resource you can use: > >>> > >>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/ > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Heather > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rochelle > Fernandes <rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> > >>> Reply-To: "goa-research-net@googlegroups.com" < > goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> > >>> Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 9:34 AM > >>> To: "goa-research-net@googlegroups.com" < > goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [GRN] Re: Mapping landowning families > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Caution:This email originated from outside of the College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. Report anything suspicious to the HelpDesk. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm looking at late 1800s and/or early 1900s. I just want to get an > idea of the concentration of such families. I then want to map the same. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm writing a social history of Goa for my thesis and this mapping > would help me make sense of the following chapters that focus on labour. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 14:58 Frederick Noronha < > fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Landowning patterns seem to change in different parts of the state, > especially those in which comunidades ceased to exist, or are virtually > extinct. The connection between politics and landholding in post-1961 Goan > politics also doesn't seem to have been adequately studied. Also, I often > wonder whether some properties of extinguished religious Orders ended up in > private hands in parts of Goa? Just random thoughts to unanswered questions > in my mind.... FN > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 13:54, Rochelle Fernandes < > rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Catholic Landowning families* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 13:41 Rochelle Fernandes < > rochelleannfernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Good day > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone have any information on landowning families from Colonial > Goa? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm looking to conduct a survey where I map the "big families" > (whoever they may be!) and their estates. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please let me know. 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