I agree with Ravi and Bryce...we have other fish to fry (threads to
answer) and Java is a programming language reference which doesn't
imply every library under the sun (pun intended).

On Dec 1, 4:19 am, bryce cottam <bcot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the GAE isn't cross-compiling, javac is doing the compiling (the real
> java compiler), so it's kind of a moot argument.  The point is, the
> system runs java, not g-java, not pseudo-java, it's java.  It just
> doesn't have all the libraries you want.  That's all.  It's written in
> the Java programming language (or Scala, or Groovy JRuby or anything
> else that runs on the JVM) and runs on a JVM... it's Java.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Bobby <bobbysoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Suppose someone writes an app in C and wishes to cross compile to
> > Java. In that scenario, if some C class is unsupported by the cross-
> > compiler, then does the C app stop being a C app? No.
>
> > Bobby
>
> > On Dec 1, 4:10 am, Bobby <bobbysoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Maybe for terminology's sake it would make sense to detach the GAE
> >> from any language associations and just indicate that there are cross-
> >> compilers from Java/Python to GAE. Then there would be no question on
> >> whether it's "technically Java"  - one does write in Java, it's just
> >> that the cross-compiler has its own requirements and limitations. Is
> >> that any better? :)
>
> >> Bobby
>
> >> On Nov 30, 2:58 pm, Nicolas Melendez <nmelen...@getsense.com.ar>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > if we are going to collaborate each other, we need the right names 
> >> > because
> >> > communication is critical.
>
> >> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jess Evans <laphroai...@gmail.com> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > There are innovators who "attempt" to advance the field and be the 
> >> > > first.
> >> > > They appeal to the desperate and the early adopters with nothing to 
> >> > > loose
> >> > > and much to gain.
>
> >> > > There are guardians with deep experience who strive to ensure 
> >> > > reliability
> >> > > and predictability.  They appeal to those upon whom many are dependent;
> >> > > those with everything to lose and little to gain.
>
> >> > > Both camps are invaluable.
>
> >> > > Incorrectly categorizing a technology, or failing to understand who 
> >> > > you're
> >> > > employed to represent, are personal problems.
>
> >> > > On Nov 30, 2009 12:22 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <j...@infohazard.org> wrote:
>
> >> > > I, for one, am sick and tired of Sun's domineering, suffocating
> >> > > stranglehold on what is and isn't Java.  GAE is a breath of fresh air.
>
> >> > > JavaME and JavaEE also impose a variety of limitations on Java.
> >> > > What's the difference between those and GAE?  The difference is that
> >> > > Sun got a committee of big company representatives with their own
> >> > > vested interests in a closed room and argued about how "the official
> >> > > specs" should work for years... and ultimately produced a bunch of
> >> > > crap that is barely useful to anyone.  Just *try* out Websphere
> >> > > sometime, I dare you.
>
> >> > > For the first time ever, someone has produced a shared application
> >> > > service model for Java that's even easier than PHP.  This could never
> >> > > have come out of the JCP.
>
> >> > > If this is "destroying java", then GOOD RIDDANCE!
>
> >> > > Jeff
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