if we are going to collaborate each other, we need the right names because
communication is critical.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jess Evans <laphroai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are innovators who "attempt" to advance the field and be the first.
> They appeal to the desperate and the early adopters with nothing to loose
> and much to gain.
>
> There are guardians with deep experience who strive to ensure reliability
> and predictability.  They appeal to those upon whom many are dependent;
> those with everything to lose and little to gain.
>
> Both camps are invaluable.
>
> Incorrectly categorizing a technology, or failing to understand who you're
> employed to represent, are personal problems.
>
> On Nov 30, 2009 12:22 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <j...@infohazard.org> wrote:
>
> I, for one, am sick and tired of Sun's domineering, suffocating
> stranglehold on what is and isn't Java.  GAE is a breath of fresh air.
>
> JavaME and JavaEE also impose a variety of limitations on Java.
> What's the difference between those and GAE?  The difference is that
> Sun got a committee of big company representatives with their own
> vested interests in a closed room and argued about how "the official
> specs" should work for years... and ultimately produced a bunch of
> crap that is barely useful to anyone.  Just *try* out Websphere
> sometime, I dare you.
>
> For the first time ever, someone has produced a shared application
> service model for Java that's even easier than PHP.  This could never
> have come out of the JCP.
>
> If this is "destroying java", then GOOD RIDDANCE!
>
> Jeff
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