> This is a forum for people to share information on GAE and solve
problems.

Pot, kettle and all that unless you know how Google can subvert the
"great firewall".

On Apr 2, 8:48 pm, Andy <selforgani...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No one is interested in hearing your "political/moral" preaching.
>
> This is a forum for people to share information on GAE and solve
> problems. If you have anything of value to add to the discussion, feel
> free to add your bits. If not, you won't be missed.
>
> So you "encourage me to take my business elsewhere"?
>
> Who are you - are you the spokesperson of Google? Is that the Google
> official position on this matter?
>
> Or was that just another failed attempt of you at self-aggrandizement?
>
> On Apr 2, 7:53 pm, Joe Bowman <bowman.jos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > China and the other countries block content that they deem
> > unacceptable for their citizens. In order to get appengine off the
> > blacklist, they would have to disallow people to create applications
> > which would be deemed offensive to those countries.
>
> > First, looking at it from the pure technical/business view, this would
> > require that applications no longer post immediately, and be under
> > review at each update at a minimum. This would potentially decrease
> > the amount of applications served (thus decreasing revenue) while
> > increasing costs to support the system.
>
> > From the political/moral view, Google has been a staunch supporter of
> > rights to speech, and it wasn't that long ago that they were chastised
> > for bending their own rules to support China at all by allowing the
> > filtering of search results. Further expansion of their products
> > having such filtering imposed by them would lead to more reputation
> > damage. Reputation damage also costs money.
>
> > So really, from two different perspectives, there's no business sense
> > in worrying about if appengine applications are being firewalled by 6
> > out of the 150+ countries that exist in the world. As a customer you
> > have every right to take your business elsewhere, and if making you
> > application available in those 6 countries is of the importance that
> > you need to, I encourage you to do so. Not every web application is
> > going to be appropriate for appengine.
>
> > There's 6 countries that support appengine, and can only write
> > programs in python. Which is really the limiting factor of the
> > application environment?
>
> > On Apr 2, 7:16 pm, Andy Freeman <ana...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Why shouldn't this be google's problem?
>
> > > Suppose that I sold raincoats and you wanted to buy one of my
> > > raincoats.  If someone else got between us and stopped me from
> > > delivering raincoats to you, who would you hold responsible?
>
> > > Google isn't doing the blocking.
>
> > > Yes, Google may be able to make more money if it can get around the
> > > blocking, but that doesn't change the fact that the blocks are not
> > > under Google's control.
>
> > > In other words, blocking may be a problem, that is an issue, for
> > > Google, but it isn't Google's problem, that is, something that Google
> > > has some obligation to do act upon.
>
> > > On Apr 2, 3:38 pm, Andy <selforgani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Why shouldn't this be google's problem?
>
> > > > Google's hosting platform is being blocked by the country with the
> > > > largest internet population in the world. You think that's not a major
> > > > problem?
>
> > > > I've used plenty of hosting sites that are perfectly accessible from
> > > > China. So obviously this is a problem for Google.
>
> > > > On Apr 2, 11:18 am, Barry Hunter <barrybhun...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > And why is this Google's problem?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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