This thread keeps getting more and more surreal.

Google App Engine != Google Apps.  They aren't run by the same people.  I
realize there probably isn't a mailing list where you can vent at the
Google Apps team, but it's pointless to do it here.

Jeff


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:27 AM, River <riverg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> This is truly heartbreaking. A couple years ago I was about to sign up for
> the free 50 user account to build a social enterprise I had been planning
> for years, when my daughter was abducted. I had to drop everything and
> didn’t sign up, but I certainly would have if I’d known if was going away
> because it was critical to the plan.
>
>  It took 2 years and going into huge debt to recover her. Now, I was just
> about to sign up for the free 10 user account to build a much scaled down
> version of the plan, and discover I have just missed it once again.
>
> Now I must abandon the plan completely because the entire viability was
> based around zero start up costs, since for the first few years of
> community work, it will have no income or contributions. Plus I am familiar
> with Google’s tools and don’t have the time to learn another platform.
>
> This is very sad. I put so much care and time into building this plan. Now
> a lot of good that would have been done will not happen. I was so exited
> about the free Google Apps offering, it revolutionized the ability for
> certain kinds of social enterprises to get started immediately without
> funding and start doing good in their communities.
>
> For some team efforts, a simple integrated infrastructure is everything
> and all you need to get started. I just wish I had had the foresight and
> street savvy to guess that it wouldn’t last and put in the 10 minutes it
> would have take to sign up back when it was 50 users, or at least yesterday
> when it was 10. Now I can’t do it at all.
>
> Regards,
> River
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:41:34 PM UTC-7, Greg D'Alesandre wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> The Apps Standard account you have today will continue to work for free.
>>  If you create a new Apps account going through the App Engine Admin
>> Console you'll still be able to create a Standard Apps account for free but
>> you'll only be able to get 1 user per account rather than the 10 you get
>> today.
>>
>> Let me know if you have additional questions,
>>
>> Greg D'Alesandre
>> Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Nickolas Daskalou <ni...@daskalou.com>wrote:
>>
>>> -1 Google.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 December 2012 13:53, Strom <xxs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This seems like another nice price increase for GAE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:42:42 AM UTC+2, Greg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just saw that Google Apps is no longer free for 
>>>>> businesses<http://googleenterprise.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/changes-to-google-apps-for-businesses.html>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no problem paying for a Google Apps account where I actually
>>>>> use Google apps, but at the moment you have to have a Google Apps account
>>>>> to link a domain to an Appengine app. Some of our apps have two or three
>>>>> domains showing the same app, and because you need to have an account for
>>>>> each email address that Appengine sends email from, we have three or four
>>>>> accounts per domain. So this is potentially going to add $600 per year to
>>>>> our costs - all for virtual accounts that don't actually use Google Apps 
>>>>> at
>>>>> all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone from Google comment please? Either Google Apps accounts
>>>>> need to remain free if they are associated with Appengine apps, or there
>>>>> needs to be another way to link domains (and authorise email addresses) 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Appengine.
>>>>>
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