Hey Ian, On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bambury <ianbamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I get a spare time-slot I'll give it a go again, but as I said a couple > of emails ago, I did that 2 days ago to remove the GEP after I needed to get > rid of it. Therefore, the latest install *was* clean (apart from a few > preferences I'd changed and importing my formatting settings. Windows was > only re-installed from scratch about 4 weeks ago. You can't be suggesting > that everyone ought to re-install Eclipse from scratch and than immediately > install the GEP before they even leave the welcome screen it they want to be > sure, can you No, not at all. A clean install of Eclipse isn't required to install GEP; I was just worried that you were installing on top of a broken GEP installation. But, as you pointed out (and I apparently missed), the latest install was clean. There are no concerns with preferences/formatting settings, etc. My main concern was remaining artifacts from a partial GEP install. > And I know you keep giving me the longinstall link, but I have only ever > been trying to install the plugin and GWT 1.6.4 SDK. Even it that weren't > the case, surely progress would have increased by at least 1 percent when > left for 8 or 9 hours overnight? > Even if you're just installing the plugin without the SDK - the instructions in that link still apply. Whenever you install ANY new plugin on Eclipse 3.4, the behavior described in that FAQ entry will occur. The code for computing the requirements/dependencies for a plugin in Eclipse 3.4 is riddled with problems. It is also brittle in the sense that it can get hung up/stuck while attempting to connect to other update sites in an effort to resolve dependencies. I think that's what happened in your case - it basically got stuck - that's why progress did not increase. > But if I get a break where I don't need to use Eclipse for a while, I'll > re-install it and try from scratch again. > Thanks. If you keep running to problems, see the info mentioned here on how to do a manual install of the plugin: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/f127367d8a578013/dbbd67c1e79b03e3 > > Ian > > http://examples.roughian.com > > > 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal <rda...@google.com> > >> Hey Ian, >> >> If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest: >> >> 1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely clean >> version of Eclipse >> 2) Start it up with a completely new workspace >> 3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the >> instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button: >> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall* >> >> That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in >> Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the >> install process. >> >> If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try >> and work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed >> plugin installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch. >> >> >> Rajeev >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury <ianbamb...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Update... >>> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the >>> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab. >>> >>> I restarted Eclipse. >>> >>> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software tab, >>> but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled. >>> >>> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the >>> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains >>> disabled. >>> >>> I'm a bit stuck for options here. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> http://examples.roughian.com >>> >>> >>> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury <ianbamb...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi Rajeev, >>>> I've got: >>>> >>>> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000 >>>> >>>> java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03 >>>> >>>> As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the >>>> GEP and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no >>>> install option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another >>>> way to check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't >>>> show >>>> it. >>>> >>>> It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies" >>>> >>>> The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed >>>> compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time. >>>> >>>> I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put >>>> it back how I like it :-) (only takes a moment) >>>> >>>> I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly >>>> uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> http://examples.roughian.com >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal <rda...@google.com> >>>> >>>> Hey Ian, >>>>> >>>>> Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem. >>>>> Our plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, >>>>> and >>>>> some of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu >>>>> contributions will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've >>>>> been using Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin. >>>>> >>>>> I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4 >>>>> installs with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an >>>>> error >>>>> dialog indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5 >>>>> JVM cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rajeev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal <rda...@google.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Ian, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the information. Responses inline: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury <ianbamb...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Rajeev, >>>>>>> Thanks for the response. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean >>>>>>>> version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to >>>>>>>> uninstall >>>>>>>> the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, >>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>> with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and >>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>> again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> will greatly speed up the install process). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to >>>>>>> install the GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up >>>>>>> showing 31% >>>>>>> completed, nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual >>>>>>> progress, >>>>>>> just animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel >>>>>>> button) and after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> nothing had changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but >>>>>> I'm not sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that >>>>>> Eclipse >>>>>> does not fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what >>>>>> text was in the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like >>>>>> "computing >>>>>> requirements and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe >>>>>> "installing"? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds >>>>>>> or so. I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at >>>>>>> all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and >>>>>>> GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no >>>>>>> install >>>>>>> option is available) and the AppEngine SDK. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Does Installed Software also show the plugin as installed? Available >>>>>> Software should really not have any of the components as installable, if >>>>>> they've already been installed (unless you have the "Include items that >>>>>> have >>>>>> already been installed" checkbox checked). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed >>>>>>> last time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or >>>>>>> right-clicking a project - nothing new) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Try going to Window -> Reset Perspective (or, on the Mac, Eclipse -> >>>>>> Reset Perspective). Does that help? Also, do you see any errors reported >>>>>> in >>>>>> the error log? Go to Window -> Show View -> Error Log (or, on the Mac, >>>>>> Eclipse -> Show View -> Error Log) to display the error log view. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can >>>>>>>> happen when components are not properly installed, as you experienced. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> should not be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse >>>>>>>> back in >>>>>>>> a working state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> normal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, despite unchecking the project as a GWT one in the GEP options, >>>>>>> and after the uninstall apparently working OK, there were still GEP >>>>>>> changes >>>>>>> in there stopping the project working. Having sorted that out, as I >>>>>>> said, >>>>>>> context assist didn't know about GWT classes. That is now fixed, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried the -clean option (thanks Isaac) but unfortunately it didn't >>>>>>> make any difference. That was after restarting Eclipse, then rebooting >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not particularly worried about getting it working. As I said, I >>>>>>> was only re-installing it in order to answer the questions I was asked >>>>>>> before. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for going through all of this in order to give us some useful >>>>>> information. We appreciate it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
