Hi aaron, I have followed the list for a year or so, I rarely ask a question as I am not a user as such, but someone who works to implement accessibility solutions in web and desktop applications.
It is problematic to me that when I have asked, no timeline is publically provided for increasing support of features such as WAI-ARIA and as I am trying to convince clients to provide the accessibility advantages from WAI-ARIA, but when they ask when will the major AT like window eyes support it, all I can say is "it'll be ready when its ready" Regards Stevef -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 May 2009 14:22 To: Steve Faulkner Cc: 'Sam bushman'; [email protected] Subject: Re: window eyes support for HTML 5 canvas element Steve, If you're new to the list, and haven't been involved in some of the healthy and passionate discussions we have around here, it's easy to think that I come across insulting and arrogant (and I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I am the best of both). But we have a very open and trustworthy relationship with our customers here at GW Micro, and I don't think any of them were offended by my statement, especially Sam. He can take it just as well as he can dish it out. We get a little heated around here when we have to repeat the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over again, and at some point, our human side wins out over our professional side. We're just people too. Your comments, however, are appreciated. People are most certainly free to choose whatever screen reader they want. We know the power the goes into Window-Eyes, and we'll back that any day. Aaron On 5/28/2009 9:05 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Hi aaron, > You wrote: > " Here's a firm commitment, guarantee, absolute fool-proof, official > statement that you can take to the bank: we'll do it when we're ready." > > This I found to be a rather insulting and arrogant tone to take with your > customers. > > I suggest that Window Eyes users should try NVDA http://www.nvda-project.org/ > the free open source screen reader for windows, the people who develop it are > open to requests and very helpful. > > Regards > Steve faulkner > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 28 May 2009 13:45 > To: Sam bushman > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: window eyes support for HTML 5 canvas element > > We stated long ago that the Browse Mode upgrade we hoped to provide in > 7.1 would have to wait until after 7.1 ships, otherwise the 7.1 release > date would be pushed back even further. Imagine all the urgent emails > you'd have to write if that happened. > > Here's a firm commitment, guarantee, absolute fool-proof, official > statement that you can take to the bank: we'll do it when we're ready. > > Aaron > > On 5/28/2009 8:33 AM, Sam bushman wrote: >> I understand but, we have heard that an upgrade to browse mode is in the >> works for how many versions now? >> Will we ever get a firm commitment on this before it's available? >> Sam >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith"<[email protected]> >> Cc:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:29 AM >> Subject: Re: window eyes support for HTML 5 canvas element >> >> >>> If you don't mean to complain, then you wouldn't have hit send.<grin> >>> >>> We've covered this over, and over. 7.1 will include a number of >>> enhancements, such as 64-bit support, Windows 7 support (both 32 and >>> 64-bit), numerous Braille and Scripting enhancements, and more. >>> >>> We've also stated, on more than one occasion, that our Browse Mode >>> re-write will happen post 7.1, so my indication that support for HTML5 >>> elements would be post 7.1 is nothing new to what we've already >>> indicated. >>> >>> Aaron >>> >>> On 5/28/2009 8:19 AM, Sam bushman wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I don't mean to complain here but, it is starting to seem like every >>>> thing is post 7.1. >>>> What will actually be in the 7.1 release? >>>> Can we get a preview? >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith"<[email protected]> >>>> To: "Steve Faulkner"<[email protected]> >>>> Cc:<[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:15 AM >>>> Subject: Re: window eyes support for HTML 5 canvas element >>>> >>>> >>>>> Post 7.1, most likely. >>>>> >>>>> Aaron >>>>> >>>>> On 5/28/2009 7:46 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote: >>>>>> Are there any plans to provide access to the fallback content of the >>>>>> new HTML5<canvas> element. >>>>>> <canvas> fallback content</canvas> >>>>>> Currently while the fallback content is available in the DOM it is >>>>>> not announced by Window Eyes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> with regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Faulkner >>>>>> Technical Director - TPG Europe >>>>>> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium >>>>>> >>>>>> www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org >>>>>> Web Accessibility Toolbar - >>>>>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>> sender only. 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