On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:34:05 +0100 David Ramsden <da...@0wned.it> wrote:
> john lewis wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:26:49 +0100 > > David Ramsden <da...@0wned.it> wrote: > > > >> Alan Pope wrote: > >>> 2009/8/6 David Ramsden <da...@0wned.it>: > >>>> I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to > >>>> Ubuntu. I'd like to avoid a complete re-install because: > >>> Blimey, you're brave posting "Upgrade .. from Debian to Ubuntu" on > >>> this list. Get your best flame retardant underpants on. > > > > I didn't like to comment ;-) > > s/Upgrade/Migrate/ > > Although that probably doesn't make things any better, does it > John? ;) > > > > >>> Apparently, if I want to run the latest version of the required > >> software, I have to use Ubuntu now. Which is a bit of a pain when > >> there are these three Debian servers out there... > > > >> One server is currently on Debian 5.0.2, the others are Debian 4.0. > >> The required software now needs Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. > > > > what software package can't you get with Debian 5.0.2? > > Unfortunately the package is provided by a 3rd party vendor, via > their own repository. > > The latest major release of the package is Ubuntu only. I could > probably download the .deb and get it to work but then I may run the > risk of hitting a bug and the answer being "it's because you're not > running Ubuntu". > > The reason behind this is because the product can also run as a > virtual appliance using VMware. I've been told that Debian is no > longer VMware certified but Ubuntu is. Therefore the software vendor > has decided to ditch Debian with newer versions of their product. This make me fume! Ubuntu is "supposed" to be a derivative of Debian and packages developed by Ubuntu developers were "supposed" to be compatible with the parent distro or at least passed back to Debian to be made compatible (/me simplifies a bit) so is ubuntu now officially a fork of Debian? as for Debian being no longer 'VMware certified' I cannot find anything regarding this via googling. Debian Lenny with the gnome desktop certainly has VMware tools and this URL suggests a way around one problem found in upgrading from Etch to Lenny http://www.virtuallifestyle.nl/2008/10/debian-lenny-vmware-tools/ a Howto for lenny amd64 suggests getting VMware-server-2.0.1-156745.x86_64.tar.gz and installing that, presumably there is a 32bit tar package as well http://linux.com/community/blogs/howto-install-vmware-server-2-on-debian-lenny-amd64-64bit.html [snip] > The boxen have been running for nearly a year and there wasn't the > need to upgrade. Upgrading means some downtime which wasn't an option > either. Luckily I now have a window where I can upgrade or re-install > as it looks like I'll be doing. I have done debian upgrades without even having to reboot! but usually an upgrade includes a newer kernel so a reboot is then needed to take advantage of whatever enhancements the newer kernel provides. -- John Lewis using Debian Sid with windowmaker for a nicer desktop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------------
