I just got a Zen X-Fi 16gb, works well, plug n play, drag n drop device
recognition, don't need to install and use any software or evn choose to use
Windows Media Player.

better than the ipods I've used lately, I just hate what itunes has turned
into.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:48 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] need iPod help ?

I don't get why people hate on iTunes so much. The interface is dead 
easy to use and the software works great. If you don't want to buy media 
with Apple DRM then either buy DRM free stuff from iTunes or buy from 
Amazon. When you buy from Amazon it automatically ends up in your iTunes 
library.

iTunes is *not* *bad* *software.*

If you absolutely HATE it and CAN NOT USE iTunes then use MediaMonkey 
which is free and does what iTunes does, just not as well (imho.)

Or, don't buy an iPod. I had a Creative Zen Vision:M and besides it 
being a complete piece of crap, using Windows Media to manage it was 
terrible. Ugh!

Brian Weeden wrote:
> Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies.  You only
> solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another
> program (like Poddox <http://www.poddox.com/>).  But either way I'm pretty
> sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy
> anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless
> you do some illegal stuff).

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