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~ Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Timothy L Havener < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *slow clap* > > Karl Weckstrom wrote: > > I'm *not* supporting L4D until Valve gets their act together. I made the > decision a day or two after release and numerous frustrating attempts to get > it behaving the way I wanted. > > > > To say "If you can't figure it out, then you shouldn't be a server > operator" doesn't carry *ANY* weight with me. That's simply a childish jab > at best and an excuse for valve at worst. > > > > There is no substitute for proper documentation. <---Read that. Now read > it again. Keep reading it until you understand what it means. > > > > Everyone on this list should be *EXPECTING* proper documentation for this > product. Not begging for it or relying on the few people who managed to > kinda-sorta figure it out. It's half-assed, and I expect better from Valve. > I blindly believed that Valve would do right by server ops. I won't blindly > believe that anymore. > > > > Call me a whiner. Call me an attention-craver. I don't care. I *will* > voice my opinion if I feel strongly enough about it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric van Beesten > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:02 AM > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > files? > > > > To be honnest, i think he is right. We don't whine, but instead we give > > feedback (some feedback is a little negative formulated.. but its > feedback). > > I'm sure they all read the mailinglist (hi, guys!!!), but its sometimes > > annoying when you don't know a "roadmap". For example, all the feedback > we > > have given.. when does it gets updated? And most important, does it get > > updated? Game is out for almost a week now and we still haven't got a > > update. We don't know when the update is coming. > > > > We indeed contribute to the success of the left4dead games. I'm sure that > > valve won't going to host lots of left4dead servers. Giving support to > game > > buyers is a really important factor, but giving support to servermanagers > > (like update info/ roadmaps and maybe server.cfg instruction) is also a > > important factor! > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Olly > > Verzonden: dinsdag 25 november 2008 11:55 > > Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > > files? > > > > They don't make it a pain.. If you don't know how to setup servers, then > > maybe you shouldn't be doing so. There are 1000's of other servers that > are > > up and working fine without posting a whine thread. > > > > 2008/11/25 ccfan4326 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> What I meant is that those who rent and host L4D servers are helping > >> to support the game. I guess it's not as significant as with > >> CSS/TF2/etc, but yeah. It's not just Valve either. Why developers tend > >> to make it a pain for server admins to setup a server for MP-centric > >> games I do not know. > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Dr.Stinglock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> We are not paying them (valve) a cent to host servers. > >>> > >>> There is a once payment for the client install though. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ccfan4326 > >>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 2:01 PM > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > >>> > >> files? > >> > >>> We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their > >>> game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation? > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> Indeed. Everyone needs to stop whining about this. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>> I bet the Valve guys don't either. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://instantrimshot.com/ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 17:07 -0800, Midnight wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'd be happy to. My consulting fees are $250/hr, 50% in advance. I > >>>>>> don't work for free sorry. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> gulfy wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sounds like you're up to the challenge. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Midnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Like he said though, there is not a central consolidated and up > >>>>>>>> > > to > > > >>>>> date > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> list of information about running L4D servers. It shouldn't take > >>>>>>>> > >>> more > >>> > >>>>>>>> than 30 minutes to put together and add to a wiki or forum page. > >>>>>>>> Leaving everyone to their own devices to scour mailing lists and > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> forums > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> looking for answers is pretty unprofessional frankly. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kevin Ottalini wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There have been qute a few posts from valve on the linux email > >>>>>>>>> > >> list > >> > >>>>>>>> (about > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> L4D), look there too. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.html > > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> > >> archives, > >> > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> > >> please visit: > >> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3638 (20081125) Informatie __________ > > > > Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. > > http://www.nod32.nl > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
