I know that SRCDS is going to make an EBook to be a lot more detailed than the old documention that they currently have and should be easy for newer people. Valve makes games, they dont write books lol... but not the point. They give us the tool (That usually works) to do what we need and expect us to figure it out from there which can be quite hard if you are just starting. If anyone looked in the L4D install there is actually a readme file or something of the sorts that describes the differences of L4D compared to other Source games and explains how to use them like the steam group stuff. Part of running a server is knowing everything about them, if you arent knowledgable enough to run a sever then rent one from somewhere with really good support that can do all the dirty work for you. Otherwise, go to srcds.com and get free support from users who know what they are doing.
________________________________ From: Matthew Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:06:13 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files? Check out srcds.com (as others have mentioned). The forums ( http://forums.srcds.com) are also active and friendly. ~ Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Timothy L Havener < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *slow clap* > > Karl Weckstrom wrote: > > I'm *not* supporting L4D until Valve gets their act together. I made the > decision a day or two after release and numerous frustrating attempts to get > it behaving the way I wanted. > > > > To say "If you can't figure it out, then you shouldn't be a server > operator" doesn't carry *ANY* weight with me. That's simply a childish jab > at best and an excuse for valve at worst. > > > > There is no substitute for proper documentation. <---Read that. Now read > it again. Keep reading it until you understand what it means. > > > > Everyone on this list should be *EXPECTING* proper documentation for this > product. Not begging for it or relying on the few people who managed to > kinda-sorta figure it out. It's half-assed, and I expect better from Valve. > I blindly believed that Valve would do right by server ops. I won't blindly > believe that anymore. > > > > Call me a whiner. Call me an attention-craver. I don't care. I *will* > voice my opinion if I feel strongly enough about it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric van Beesten > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:02 AM > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > files? > > > > To be honnest, i think he is right. We don't whine, but instead we give > > feedback (some feedback is a little negative formulated.. but its > feedback). > > I'm sure they all read the mailinglist (hi, guys!!!), but its sometimes > > annoying when you don't know a "roadmap". For example, all the feedback > we > > have given.. when does it gets updated? And most important, does it get > > updated? Game is out for almost a week now and we still haven't got a > > update. We don't know when the update is coming. > > > > We indeed contribute to the success of the left4dead games. I'm sure that > > valve won't going to host lots of left4dead servers. Giving support to > game > > buyers is a really important factor, but giving support to servermanagers > > (like update info/ roadmaps and maybe server.cfg instruction) is also a > > important factor! > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Olly > > Verzonden: dinsdag 25 november 2008 11:55 > > Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > > files? > > > > They don't make it a pain.. If you don't know how to setup servers, then > > maybe you shouldn't be doing so. There are 1000's of other servers that > are > > up and working fine without posting a whine thread. > > > > 2008/11/25 ccfan4326 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> What I meant is that those who rent and host L4D servers are helping > >> to support the game. I guess it's not as significant as with > >> CSS/TF2/etc, but yeah. It's not just Valve either. Why developers tend > >> to make it a pain for server admins to setup a server for MP-centric > >> games I do not know. > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Dr.Stinglock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> We are not paying them (valve) a cent to host servers. > >>> > >>> There is a once payment for the client install though. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ccfan4326 > >>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 2:01 PM > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg > >>> > >> files? > >> > >>> We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their > >>> game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation? > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> Indeed. Everyone needs to stop whining about this. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>> I bet the Valve guys don't either. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://instantrimshot.com/ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 17:07 -0800, Midnight wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'd be happy to. My consulting fees are $250/hr, 50% in advance. I > >>>>>> don't work for free sorry. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> gulfy wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sounds like you're up to the challenge. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Midnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Like he said though, there is not a central consolidated and up > >>>>>>>> > > to > > > >>>>> date > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> list of information about running L4D servers. It shouldn't take > >>>>>>>> > >>> more > >>> > >>>>>>>> than 30 minutes to put together and add to a wiki or forum page. > >>>>>>>> Leaving everyone to their own devices to scour mailing lists and > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> forums > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> looking for answers is pretty unprofessional frankly. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kevin Ottalini wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There have been qute a few posts from valve on the linux email > >>>>>>>>> > >> list > >> > >>>>>>>> (about > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> L4D), look there too. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.html > > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> > >> archives, > >> > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> > >> please visit: > >> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3638 (20081125) Informatie __________ > > > > Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. > > http://www.nod32.nl > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
