I dont care, right now im wanting to fight for my right to have a server the way i want it, I think the FakePlayers are just as worse and are used in the sameway, I didnt use the crack to pirate or condone piracy, i used it as a baseline for my server just like lotus did back in the beta/earlystages when tf2 and that clan started out; Same way that i attempted. Now i don't have proof but it is true, also he had some of those cracked servers back in march of 2008 when i started my own first community. Now honestly stop the argument about me having a cracked server, because this needs to be shifted into fake playerslots, honestly remove the fakeslots or remove the servers altogether, ITS THAT SIMPLE. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Kitteny Berk <b...@hairy-arse.com> wrote:
> :facepalm: > > You don't fail because of other busy communities, you fail because you > don't offer anything different to the 20,000 other servers out there, > legit or otherwise. If you have a niche (that's not being a scumbag > running cracked servers), exploit it. > > Otherwise, make a website, get your mates to join it, play loads, admin > in a fair and reasonable manner (I seriously doubt you're capable of > this, as I expect will be proved by the diatribe in your reply to me) > and you'll get regular players, and from that a community will grow. > > Carry on as you are, and you'll just get laughed at. > > Justin wrote: > > I own the game 3 times over now, I had to start a community and i kept > > failing due to servers like lotus and dig being player whores. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote: > > > > > >> You're still trying to justify running a cracked game and pandering to > >> pirates? > >> > >> I also dare you to show me a time when I was running fakeclients or any > >> sort of scheme to attract traffic. Believe it or not, there are plenty > >> of legit communities out there - who don't lie to players, OR run > >> nosteam cracks so 15 year olds don't have to ask their parents for $20 > >> to buy TF2. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my High Horse > >> > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 18:30 -0500, Justin wrote: > >> > >>> no its because i cant compete with 40+ other servers who dont have a > >>> community that supports they're own servers, if you cant get players on > >>> > >> it > >> > >>> you dont need the server IMHO, but still it was only 1 server and > >>> > >> lotus(who > >> > >>> im talking about mostly) started out cracked to attract players, > >>> > >> mana/1nsane > >> > >>> said it himself to me in MSN back then. Honestly you think 1 little > >>> > >> cracked > >> > >>> tf2 server is gonna ruin the game? nao your servers waisting valuable > >>> > >> time > >> > >>> for players to find an actual server is killing the game because they > >>> > >> talk > >> > >>> negatively about your servers and the game because valve wont patch it. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> This coming from a guy who runs cracked versions of the game so people > >>>> who can't even be bothered to PAY for it can play. > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Justin wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys > >>>>> > >> use. > >> > >>>> I > >>>> > >>>>> swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> > >>>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive > >>>>>> > >> players > >> > >>>> onto > >>>> > >>>>>> my server. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > >>>>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots > >>>>>>>> > >> but > >> > >>>> there > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being nobody on.. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hahahaha. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes > >>>>>>>>> > >> joining > >> > >>>> their > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>>> only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <l...@gmx.net> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hmmm ... > >>>>>>>>>> It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is > >>>>>>>>>> > >> now > >> > >>>>>>> working > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> network optimization... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Tony > >> > >>>>>>> Paloma > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> 26x+ > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> serverslaggy. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Same here. There was never a problem until last update. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>>>>> > >> Ronny > >> > >>>>>>> Schedel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM > >>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> 26x+ > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> serverslaggy. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We never had this problem before the latest update. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> until I > >> > >>>>>>> turned > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Ryan Mannion <floormas...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> making > >> > >>>> 26x+ > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> servers > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> laggy. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> servers > >>>> > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> effects > >> > >>>> and > >>>> > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> frequent > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> to > >> > >>>> the > >>>> > >>>>>>> patch. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> performance > >> > >>>> was > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> fine. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> team > >> > >>>>>>> change > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> bug)! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ryan > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak < > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> coldorak....@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and > >> > >>>>>>>>> yesterday > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> internet > >> > >>>>>>>>> connection. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it would have been my TF2 server itself? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cold > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey > >>>>>>>>>>>> <nephy...@doublezen.net>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out: > >> > >>>> k/s > >>>> > >>>>>>> rates > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> 'faded' > >> > >>>>>>> colors on > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> even > >> > >>>>>>> though > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> mistaken. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> word? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> list > >> > >>>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.coldfire.info > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> list > >> > >>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> list > >> > >>>>>>> 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