it's amazing how many people think achievents and unlocks are such serious
business. ROAR BAN ALL THE IDLERS, ROAR BAN ALL THE FAKE IDLE SERVER CLIENTS

what skin is it off your nose?

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, tgnwells <tgnwe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and
> minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't
> really classify it as a cheat.
>
> And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you
> could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to perform
> simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, while
> connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if you
> were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using what
> would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your account,
> although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection.
>
> On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote:
> > I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this
> > thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see
> > through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using
> > custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance.
> >
> > Donnie Newlove wrote:
> >
> >> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling in
> >> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating
> >> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling in
> a
> >>> server it could be considered a cheat.
> >>>
> >>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to emulate
> the
> >>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned that
> >>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times at work
> to say
> >>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and you're
> still
> >>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have nothing
> to
> >>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your time sheet
> to
> >>> say you were at work when you actually weren't.
> >>>
> >>> iGiggled
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cc2iscooL
> >>> Head Admin/Owner
> >>> http://www.cc2iscool.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip Bembridge<
> philipbembri...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the
> weapon
> >>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the
> crit
> >>>> calculation!!
> >>>>
> >>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a
> server?
> >>>> then
> >>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going to
> strip
> >>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the other
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