What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC for people who cheat the system.
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:35 -0400, Neil Voutt wrote: > Honeypot? > > > Neil Voutt - Administrator > http://www.neilvoutt.com > http://www.ipoststupidshit.com > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > > > This. > > > > > > I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an > > > unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official client > > > or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to mention > > > the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban > > > this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects to is > > > not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't pretending > > > to be a legitimate way to play the game). > > > > > > People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very small > > > percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then this > > > whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable again > > > to gain unlocks (YAY!). > > > > > > /thread > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > > > > > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the > > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a > > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message > > the war was lost." > > > > > > > > > > > > tgnwells wrote: > > > > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and > > > > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't > > > > really classify it as a cheat. > > > > > > > > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you > > > > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to perform > > > > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, while > > > > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if you > > > > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using what > > > > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your account, > > > > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. > > > > > > > > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: > > > > > > > >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this > > > >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see > > > >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using > > > >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance. > > > >> > > > >> Donnie Newlove wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling > > in > > > >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating > > > >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling > > in a > > > >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to > > emulate the > > > >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned > > that > > > >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times at > > work to say > > > >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and > > you're still > > > >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have > > nothing to > > > >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your time > > sheet to > > > >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> iGiggled > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Cc2iscooL > > > >>>> Head Admin/Owner > > > >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip Bembridge< > > [email protected] > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the > > weapon > > > >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the > > crit > > > >>>>> calculation!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a > > server? > > > >>>>> then > > > >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going > > to strip > > > >>>>> their achieves? 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