Maybe someone could make a sourcemod plugin that bans people for standing still. They could have been idling.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: > Lollypop? > > On 6/1/09, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC for people who cheat > > the system. > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:35 -0400, Neil Voutt wrote: > >> Honeypot? > >> > >> > >> Neil Voutt - Administrator > >> http://www.neilvoutt.com > >> http://www.ipoststupidshit.com > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > >> > > This. > >> > > > >> > > I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give > an > >> > > unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official > >> > > client > >> > > or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to > >> > > mention > >> > > the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban > >> > > this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects to > is > >> > > not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't > >> > > pretending > >> > > to be a legitimate way to play the game). > >> > > > >> > > People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very > small > >> > > percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then > this > >> > > whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable > >> > > again > >> > > to gain unlocks (YAY!). > >> > > > >> > > /thread > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________________ > >> > > > >> > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a > horseshoe, > >> > > the > >> > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want > of > >> > a > >> > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered > >> > message > >> > the war was lost." > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > tgnwells wrote: > >> > > > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server > >> > > > and > >> > > > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I > >> > > > wouldn't > >> > > > really classify it as a cheat. > >> > > > > >> > > > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't > think > >> > > > you > >> > > > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to > perform > >> > > > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, > while > >> > > > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if > you > >> > > > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using > >> > > > what > >> > > > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your > account, > >> > > > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. > >> > > > > >> > > > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want > this > >> > > >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me > see > >> > > >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then > using > >> > > >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better > >> > > >> performance. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Donnie Newlove wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or > >> > > >>> idling > >> > in > >> > > >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more > >> > > >>> cheating > >> > > >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<[email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not > >> > > >>>> idling > >> > in a > >> > > >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to > >> > emulate the > >> > > >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm > >> > > >>>> concerned > >> > that > >> > > >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times > at > >> > work to say > >> > > >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and > >> > you're still > >> > > >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have > >> > nothing to > >> > > >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your > time > >> > sheet to > >> > > >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> iGiggled > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> -- > >> > > >>>> Cc2iscooL > >> > > >>>> Head Admin/Owner > >> > > >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip Bembridge< > >> > [email protected] > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>>> wrote: > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after > >> > > >>>>> the > >> > weapon > >> > > >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar > to > >> > > >>>>> the > >> > crit > >> > > >>>>> calculation!! > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in > a > >> > server? > >> > > >>>>> then > >> > > >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you > >> > > >>>>> going > >> > to strip > >> > > >>>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the > other > >> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, > >> > > >>>>> please visit: > >> > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, please visit: > >> > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, please visit: > >> > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > > >> archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > > > archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > -- > Cc2iscooL > Head Admin/Owner > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
