Can't tell if that is sarcasm or not. It wouldn't be a good idea. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, AzuiSleet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe someone could make a sourcemod plugin that bans people for standing > still. They could have been idling. > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Lollypop? > > > > On 6/1/09, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC for people who > cheat > > > the system. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:35 -0400, Neil Voutt wrote: > > >> Honeypot? > > >> > > >> > > >> Neil Voutt - Administrator > > >> http://www.neilvoutt.com > > >> http://www.ipoststupidshit.com > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > > >> > > This. > > >> > > > > >> > > I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that > give > > an > > >> > > unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official > > >> > > client > > >> > > or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to > > >> > > mention > > >> > > the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to > block/ban > > >> > > this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects > to > > is > > >> > > not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't > > >> > > pretending > > >> > > to be a legitimate way to play the game). > > >> > > > > >> > > People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very > > small > > >> > > percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then > > this > > >> > > whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable > > >> > > again > > >> > > to gain unlocks (YAY!). > > >> > > > > >> > > /thread > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________________ > > >> > > > > >> > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > > >> > > > > >> > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a > > horseshoe, > > >> > > the > > >> > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For > want > > of > > >> > a > > >> > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered > > >> > message > > >> > the war was lost." > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > tgnwells wrote: > > >> > > > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling > server > > >> > > > and > > >> > > > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I > > >> > > > wouldn't > > >> > > > really classify it as a cheat. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't > > think > > >> > > > you > > >> > > > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to > > perform > > >> > > > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, > > while > > >> > > > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if > > you > > >> > > > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server > using > > >> > > > what > > >> > > > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your > > account, > > >> > > > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want > > this > > >> > > >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me > > see > > >> > > >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then > > using > > >> > > >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better > > >> > > >> performance. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Donnie Newlove wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or > > >> > > >>> idling > > >> > in > > >> > > >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more > > >> > > >>> cheating > > >> > > >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL< > [email protected] > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not > > >> > > >>>> idling > > >> > in a > > >> > > >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to > > >> > emulate the > > >> > > >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm > > >> > > >>>> concerned > > >> > that > > >> > > >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times > > at > > >> > work to say > > >> > > >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, > and > > >> > you're still > > >> > > >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you > have > > >> > nothing to > > >> > > >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your > > time > > >> > sheet to > > >> > > >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> iGiggled > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> -- > > >> > > >>>> Cc2iscooL > > >> > > >>>> Head Admin/Owner > > >> > > >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip Bembridge< > > >> > [email protected] > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE > after > > >> > > >>>>> the > > >> > weapon > > >> > > >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar > > to > > >> > > >>>>> the > > >> > crit > > >> > > >>>>> calculation!! > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle > in > > a > > >> > server? > > >> > > >>>>> then > > >> > > >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you > > >> > > >>>>> going > > >> > to strip > > >> > > >>>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the > > other > > >> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > archives, > > >> > > >>>>> please visit: > > >> > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > archives, please visit: > > >> > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > archives, please visit: > > >> > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > > >> archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > > > archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > Cc2iscooL > > Head Admin/Owner > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
