I agree with Paul. Pinion needs to be changed if someone cheats their system like this.
On 29 March 2013 21:52, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > If this is all true, Pinion could solve their problems by doing more with > JavaScript and possibly Flash to verify if a user is actually viewing the > ad. One great example is using JavaScript's onmousemove event. Everyone > shouldn't be restricted/punished with a rumored MOTD change just because of > Pinion's ad security being flawed (supposedly). That's not our or Valve's > problem, that's their problem and there are ways for them to fix it if > Pinion have half decent developers on their team. > > > On 29 March 2013 21:45, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's another kick in the face for some if MOTD is being removed. Instead, >> it should be re-invented. However about no one reads motd unless they have >> to. >> >> Some mods need it badly, some don't. Personally i would settle for >> something like L4D series have, a banner and some text about the server & >> community. There was talk back then to add a button similiar like L4D2 has >> to allow people directly to join to the steamcommunity that the server has >> on it's configs. That never came to pass and it has been 2+ years. >> >> I could care less about Pinion but it seems to be the main cause for >> things like this to happen. Dammit. >> >> -ics >> >> Doctor McKay kirjoitti: >> >>> Rumor that Valve is considering removing the MOTD entirely. < >>> https://forums.alliedmods.**net/showthread.php?p=1922141#**post1922141<https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1922141#post1922141> >>> > >>> >>> Because of this, I decided to compile a list <https://docs.google.com/** >>> document/d/**14GFAlNwhtuoNq4XKqSFvPuAA7iZYm**cztQiRT85FjTzU/edit?usp=** >>> sharing<https://docs.google.com/document/d/14GFAlNwhtuoNq4XKqSFvPuAA7iZYmcztQiRT85FjTzU/edit?usp=sharing>> >>> of plugins that would entirely or partially break if this change was made. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doctor McKay >>> http://www.doctormckay.com >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM, 1nsane <[email protected] <mailto: >>> [email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Where did you hear this "rumor" from? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Paul <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Disabling window.open(...)'s JavaScript function wouldn't >>> effect pop-up screens, however if the rumor that I've heard is >>> true then that would indeed be bad for such plugins, and could >>> see the community shrink on TF2 as a result. >>> >>> >>> On 29 March 2013 16:42, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hmm, pop-up screens for plugins like !bp and many others >>> are done by users, but its the server's plugin that pops >>> the requested webpage to the client. I'd hate to see such >>> go, unless some can be worked out with the steam overlay >>> browser, but that would cause a lot of abuse is my guess. >>> (servers loading up a huge site in there without the >>> player aware etc). >>> >>> If it would be in the form of temporary "links" (bookmark) >>> in the bar on top of the overlay browser, that those only >>> get opened when the client clicks on them, that would end >>> any form of abuse. >>> >>> ------------------------------** >>> ------------------------------**------------ >>> *From:* Paul <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> <[email protected] >>> >>> <mailto:hlds@list.**valvesoftware.com<[email protected]> >>> >> >>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 March 2013, 10:15 >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD >>> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> Yes I understand what you're saying. That isn't what I >>> mean though. I've heard rumors (yes, on a forum, not >>> exactly a reliable source I know) that there are plans >>> in the works to make a massive change to the MOTD so >>> that it can't be used by server plugins mid-game, and >>> that it will only be usable at the beginning (when you >>> connect), presumably due to rare problems such as what >>> I mentioned occurring on certain servers. I'm guessing >>> the rumors aren't true, but even so I was suggesting >>> that it if the rumors are true that instead of doing >>> that you could fix the problem by disabling the >>> functionality of JavaScript's window.open(...), >>> alert(...) and confirm(...) functions. Disabling those >>> three functions would prevent any webpages that are >>> loaded in the MOTD from either making an additional >>> popup window, or temporarily losing mouse focus in the >>> game to an alert/confirm box. Hopefully I've made >>> myself a little clearer now, I didn't mean Java, I do >>> mean JavaScript. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> Paul. >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view >>> the list archives, please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.** >>> com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>> list archives, please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** >>> hlds <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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