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> From: Sebastian Iskra <seabas...@gmail.com>
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>Sent: Sunday, 31 March 2013, 1:05
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD
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>I hope they get rid of MOTD so people can't crash my game with pinion ad's 
>anymore. Good riddance 
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>On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Netshroud <netshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>If Steam Community would use GET and POST appropriately, then your concern 
>would be a non-issue. A GET request shouldn't make any changes.
>>
>>
>>On 31/03/2013, at 8:33 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Could lead to even worse abuse.
>>>
>>>
>>>Steam overlay is logged in to steam. It's been like this forever, there's 
>>>thing that rely on it staying that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>Since it is logged into steam it would allow malicious servers to do 
>>>automatically on their steam accounts. Starting with putting you in a steam 
>>>community group soon as you join a server without your consent. To using 
>>>exploits and doing much worse things like say forcing you to leave groups 
>>>you are an admin of or changing your settings.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ages ago when Steam used IE I reported an exploit able to do these things 
>>>and valve fixed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Cameron Munroe <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com> 
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>>I thought I might just put my 2 cents in, so please don't shoot me.
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Here is what the text I received over chat:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>This info was taken from a discussion on IRC between SourceMod's Asher 
>>>>Baker (Asherkin) and Valve's Tony Paloma (Druken_F00l). Asherkin posted it 
>>>>in a discussion then deleted it, but not before someone quoted it.
>>>>And just to make sure it doesn't get lost, I'm also going to quote it here 
>>>>too.
>>>><Drunken_F00l> so i think we're gonna nuke the info panel
>>>><Drunken_F00l> or at least the ability to send it at arbitrary times
>>>><@asherkin> :|
>>>><@asherkin> why?
>>>><Drunken_F00l> because pinion
>>>><Drunken_F00l> or more like server ops abusing pinion
>>>><@asherkin> thus killing things that have existed forever, like using it to 
>>>>view stats or to listen to streaming radio
>>>><Drunken_F00l> it sucks that it might break plugins or game modes using it 
>>>>for legit reasons though
>>>><Drunken_F00l> ya
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>In any case I think what they will only stop motd after initial connect 
>>>>thus blocking any abuse by server owners. However I would rather, after 
>>>>initial connect, to have links opened by the steam overlay browser. This 
>>>>would first fix the issue of Pinion spamming as the player could quickly 
>>>>exit out and continue playing there game, not to mention this harms the 
>>>>said owner that is spamming the Ad during normal game play because of the 
>>>>required completions, and not being able to hold the session for 30 
>>>>seconds. It would also be nicer because you could use this as a simple way 
>>>>to open radio programs and such, and in new tabs. Thus no longer will radio 
>>>>be quit out once you type !bp. It could also have the added functionality 
>>>>of going to a common tab for similar links so if you already had radio 
>>>>open, and you open radio again you won't be spammed by two radios playing. 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Just some thoughts.
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