Bots have no impact on quickplay eligibility or rating. (Provided no hacks are done to conceal the fact that they are bots and try to pass them off as real players.)
-----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of louloubizou Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:59 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the update? ok thanks for the reply and with bots, problem to be in pool or a penalty? 2013/10/31 Todd Pettit <pettit.t...@gmail.com> > 32 players is fine. I had 10 of them running the event247 map, all > were full. I will say that this map is very chaotic with 32 players > and I went down to 24 players because of all the spells. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "louloubizou" <louloubi...@gmail.com> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:05:38 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the update? > > running 32 slots is ok for be in event247 pool ? > > 2013/10/31 Guardian Cipher <guardiancip...@gmail.com> > > > My 9 servers are starting to fill up again... > > http://i.imgur.com/qPHIeFk.png > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:38 PM, DontWannaName! > > <ad...@topnotchclan.com > > >wrote: > > > > > The question you should be asking is why their 30 Halloween > > > servers are full while your two are empty. Do they have more > > > people joining to help fill them? Who knows. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Daniel Barreiro < > > > smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > The Valve servers may affect the traffic, but not as much as > > > > it's > been > > > > affected. It's the over saturation of servers in general, > > > > especially > > from > > > > the clans that put up 25+ event servers hoping for traffic. > > > > Skial is running 16, Saigns is running 30, etc. > > > > Yes the 76 Valve put up will affect the traffic, but there seems > > > > to > be > > > more > > > > to this honestly. The past 2 days have been 24/7 traffic, > > > > suddenly it plummets for a ton of people. Part of it may be more > > > > servers have > been > > > put > > > > up, but the fact everyone started having issues after the update > seems > > to > > > > point to something else. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Absolutely, I don't see any reason to keep my event servers up now. > > > >> > > > >> http://i.imgur.com/bejbG1m.png > > > >> > > > >> This is pretty disappointing. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjorn Wielens" < > uniac...@yahoo.ca > > > > > > >> > > > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > <hlds_linux@list. > > ** > > > >> valvesoftware.com <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:58 PM > > > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >> the > > update? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> If the existence of the valve servers is the sole cause of the > massive > > > >> decrease in traffic to communities... It poses a rather large > > > >> issue > > for > > > >> those communities. > > > >> It means that the sheer number of valve's quickplay-eligible > > > >> servers > > is > > > >> outshadowing _many_ communities (as judging by the messages in > > > >> this > > > thread), > > > >> and the server market is being over-saturated to the point > > > >> where communities basically have a hard time getting a foothold > > > >> unless > there > > > is > > > >> an established playerbase > > > >> that is large enough to sustain the server with very little > > > >> traffic > > > influx. > > > >> > > > >> Ultimately, it means communities likely won't bother with event > > servers > > > as > > > >> a result of no traffic anyway... and this will rebound very > > > >> rapidly > in > > > the > > > >> opposite direction. > > > >> I thought the entire goal of quickplay was to help get traffic > > > >> _to_ communities and help players discover them (for those that > > > >> keep > their > > > >> servers within a set of parameters)... not "keep all the > > > >> traffic for > > > Valve > > > >> servers". > > > >> > > > >> I realize this sounds pretty scathing , but it is something I > > > >> think > we > > > (as > > > >> community server operators) need to be seriously aware of - for > > > >> the > > day > > > >> that no more communities exist to keep the hat market up, will > > > >> be > the > > > day > > > >> TF2 truly dies :D > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ______________________________**__ > > > >> From: Fletcher Dunn <fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list <hlds_linux@list. > ** > > > >> valvesoftware.com <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>> > > > >> Cc: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list ( > > > >> h...@list.valvesoftware.com)" <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:30:23 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >> the > > update? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> There were no Valve event servers running until last night. > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com< > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>[mailto: > > > >> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com< > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] > > > >> On Behalf Of Daniel Barreiro > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:13 AM > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >> the > > update? > > > >> > > > >> Never run any bots, all of my servers were full yesterday and > > > >> are completely dead last night until now. > > > >> Only change was the update. > > > >> One of the servers wasn't registered until this event > > > >> (converted it > > > from a > > > >> custom server temporarily just to get a 24/7 helltower server > > > >> for > the > > > >> week), so it was a brand new ID. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> None of my servers are running any sort of bots, and they all > dropped > > > >>> quickplay traffic completely last night. > > > >>> > > > >>> Can you double check to verify this update didn't create an > > additional > > > >>> issue, as it sure does look like something is wrong. > > > >>> > > > >>> ~6000 players in 24h to 0 in 12h, doesn't really make any sense. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fletcher Dunn" < > > > >>> fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > > > >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > >>> <hlds_linux@list.** valvesoftware.com > > > >>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.com < > > > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>> Cc: <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:32 PM > > > >>> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >>> the > > > update? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> We recently fixed a bug that has been giving servers running > > > >>> bots > an > > > >>> > > > >>>> unfair and unintended quickplay scoring advantage. This could > change > > > >>>> traffic patterns. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>> From: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valv**esoftware.com< > > > http://valvesoftware.com> > > > >>>> <hlds_linux-**boun...@list.valvesoftware.com< > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>>> **>[mailto: > > > >>>> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.**valvesoftware.com< > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>>> <hlds_linux-**bounces@list.v > > > >>>> alvesoftware.com>] > > > >>>> On Behalf Of Marco Padovan > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:52 AM > > > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >>>> the > > > update? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Same here... seeing the same issue on 12servers.... all where > > > >>>> full yesterday :) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Padraig Fahy < > > padraig.f...@gmail.com > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Server was full last night before update..but no one has been > > > >>>> on since > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> the update. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thankfully I am not the only one with this issue! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:41 PM, thesupremecommander < > > > >>>>> thesupremec...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Seeing problems on my end as well. A server holding at > > > >>>>>> 24/24 constant before the update has seen all of its > > > >>>>>> traffic vanish > even > > > >>>>>> with a few players to seed QuickPlay traffic. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Calvin Judy < > evo...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> VAC secure mode is activated. > > > >>>>>>> Connection to game coordinator established. > > > >>>>>>> Current item schema is up-to-date with version 553324E3. > > > >>>>>>> Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver account... > > > >>>>>>> L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Received auth challenge; signing > > > >>>>>>> into > > > >>>>> gameserver > > > >>>>>>> account... > > > >>>>>>> L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Loading map "plr_hightower_event" > > > >>>>>>> Game server authentication: SUCCESS! Standing: Good. Trend: > > > >>>>>>> Upward Fast L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Game server > authentication: > > > >>>>>>> SUCCESS! > > > > >>>>>> Standing: > > > >>>>>>> Good. Trend: Upward Fast > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I'm not seeing any bad ratings on mine, but quickplay > > > >>>>>>> traffic just vanished. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lambda" > > > >>>>>>> <lambdace...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list. > > > >>>>> ** > > > >>>>>>> valvesoftware.com > > > >>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftwa**re.com < > http://valvesoftware.com > > > > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftwa > > > >>>>>>> re.com> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:29 AM > > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken > > > >>>>>>> after > the > > > >>>>> update? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Same here, i checked the quickplay status and it went from > "Good" > > > >>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>> "Bad" > > > >>>>>>>> out of a sudden, funny thing is that the client command > > > >>>>>>>> to > list > > > >>>>>>>> the identities and the status says that they're all good > > > >>>>>>>> but upon server launch it says that its "Bad" > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2013/10/31 Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/bejbG1m.png > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> There has been a significant drop in quickplay traffic > > > >>>>>>>>> on our servers > > > >>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>>> well. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Pettit" < > > > >>>>>> pettit.t...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list. > > > >>>>>> ** > > > >>>>>>>>> valvesoftware.com > > > >>>>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.****valvesoftwa**re.com<http://** > > > >>>>> valvesoftware.co <http://valvesoftware.co> > > > >>>>>>>>> m> > > > >>>>> < > > > >>>>>> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.****com<hlds_linux@list.** > > > >>>>> valvesoftware. > > > >>>>>> com> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:13 AM > > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>> update? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I noticed Halloween servers running plr_hightower_event > > > >>>>>>>>> are no > > > >>>>> longer > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> receiving quickplay traffic after the last update. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Is anyone else having the same issue? 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