good to hear that fletch :) there is some bugs with bots on hightower_event map, they dont moved even if i generate nav ...
2013/10/31 Fletcher Dunn <fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > Bots have no impact on quickplay eligibility or rating. (Provided no > hacks are done to conceal the fact that they are bots and try to pass them > off as real players.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of louloubizou > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:59 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the update? > > ok thanks for the reply > > and with bots, problem to be in pool or a penalty? > > 2013/10/31 Todd Pettit <pettit.t...@gmail.com> > > > 32 players is fine. I had 10 of them running the event247 map, all > > were full. I will say that this map is very chaotic with 32 players > > and I went down to 24 players because of all the spells. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "louloubizou" <louloubi...@gmail.com> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:05:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the update? > > > > running 32 slots is ok for be in event247 pool ? > > > > 2013/10/31 Guardian Cipher <guardiancip...@gmail.com> > > > > > My 9 servers are starting to fill up again... > > > http://i.imgur.com/qPHIeFk.png > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:38 PM, DontWannaName! > > > <ad...@topnotchclan.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > The question you should be asking is why their 30 Halloween > > > > servers are full while your two are empty. Do they have more > > > > people joining to help fill them? Who knows. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > > > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Daniel Barreiro < > > > > smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Valve servers may affect the traffic, but not as much as > > > > > it's > > been > > > > > affected. It's the over saturation of servers in general, > > > > > especially > > > from > > > > > the clans that put up 25+ event servers hoping for traffic. > > > > > Skial is running 16, Saigns is running 30, etc. > > > > > Yes the 76 Valve put up will affect the traffic, but there seems > > > > > to > > be > > > > more > > > > > to this honestly. The past 2 days have been 24/7 traffic, > > > > > suddenly it plummets for a ton of people. Part of it may be more > > > > > servers have > > been > > > > put > > > > > up, but the fact everyone started having issues after the update > > seems > > > to > > > > > point to something else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Absolutely, I don't see any reason to keep my event servers up > now. > > > > >> > > > > >> http://i.imgur.com/bejbG1m.png > > > > >> > > > > >> This is pretty disappointing. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjorn Wielens" < > > uniac...@yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > <hlds_linux@list. > > > ** > > > > >> valvesoftware.com <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:58 PM > > > > >> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >> the > > > update? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> If the existence of the valve servers is the sole cause of the > > massive > > > > >> decrease in traffic to communities... It poses a rather large > > > > >> issue > > > for > > > > >> those communities. > > > > >> It means that the sheer number of valve's quickplay-eligible > > > > >> servers > > > is > > > > >> outshadowing _many_ communities (as judging by the messages in > > > > >> this > > > > thread), > > > > >> and the server market is being over-saturated to the point > > > > >> where communities basically have a hard time getting a foothold > > > > >> unless > > there > > > > is > > > > >> an established playerbase > > > > >> that is large enough to sustain the server with very little > > > > >> traffic > > > > influx. > > > > >> > > > > >> Ultimately, it means communities likely won't bother with event > > > servers > > > > as > > > > >> a result of no traffic anyway... and this will rebound very > > > > >> rapidly > > in > > > > the > > > > >> opposite direction. > > > > >> I thought the entire goal of quickplay was to help get traffic > > > > >> _to_ communities and help players discover them (for those that > > > > >> keep > > their > > > > >> servers within a set of parameters)... not "keep all the > > > > >> traffic for > > > > Valve > > > > >> servers". > > > > >> > > > > >> I realize this sounds pretty scathing , but it is something I > > > > >> think > > we > > > > (as > > > > >> community server operators) need to be seriously aware of - for > > > > >> the > > > day > > > > >> that no more communities exist to keep the hat market up, will > > > > >> be > > the > > > > day > > > > >> TF2 truly dies :D > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ______________________________**__ > > > > >> From: Fletcher Dunn <fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > <hlds_linux@list. > > ** > > > > >> valvesoftware.com <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>> > > > > >> Cc: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list ( > > > > >> h...@list.valvesoftware.com)" <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:30:23 PM > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >> the > > > update? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> There were no Valve event servers running until last night. > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com< > > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>[mailto: > > > > >> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com< > > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] > > > > >> On Behalf Of Daniel Barreiro > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:13 AM > > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >> the > > > update? > > > > >> > > > > >> Never run any bots, all of my servers were full yesterday and > > > > >> are completely dead last night until now. > > > > >> Only change was the update. > > > > >> One of the servers wasn't registered until this event > > > > >> (converted it > > > > from a > > > > >> custom server temporarily just to get a 24/7 helltower server > > > > >> for > > the > > > > >> week), so it was a brand new ID. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> None of my servers are running any sort of bots, and they all > > dropped > > > > >>> quickplay traffic completely last night. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Can you double check to verify this update didn't create an > > > additional > > > > >>> issue, as it sure does look like something is wrong. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ~6000 players in 24h to 0 in 12h, doesn't really make any sense. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fletcher Dunn" < > > > > >>> fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > > >>> <hlds_linux@list.** valvesoftware.com > > > > >>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.com < > > > > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>> Cc: <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:32 PM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >>> the > > > > update? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We recently fixed a bug that has been giving servers running > > > > >>> bots > > an > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> unfair and unintended quickplay scoring advantage. This could > > change > > > > >>>> traffic patterns. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>>> From: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valv**esoftware.com< > > > > http://valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>>> <hlds_linux-**boun...@list.valvesoftware.com< > > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>>> **>[mailto: > > > > >>>> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.**valvesoftware.com< > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >>>> <hlds_linux-**bounces@list.v > > > > >>>> alvesoftware.com>] > > > > >>>> On Behalf Of Marco Padovan > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:52 AM > > > > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >>>> the > > > > update? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Same here... seeing the same issue on 12servers.... all where > > > > >>>> full yesterday :) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Padraig Fahy < > > > padraig.f...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Server was full last night before update..but no one has been > > > > >>>> on since > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> the update. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Thankfully I am not the only one with this issue! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:41 PM, thesupremecommander < > > > > >>>>> thesupremec...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Seeing problems on my end as well. A server holding at > > > > >>>>>> 24/24 constant before the update has seen all of its > > > > >>>>>> traffic vanish > > even > > > > >>>>>> with a few players to seed QuickPlay traffic. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Calvin Judy < > > evo...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> VAC secure mode is activated. > > > > >>>>>>> Connection to game coordinator established. > > > > >>>>>>> Current item schema is up-to-date with version 553324E3. > > > > >>>>>>> Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver account... > > > > >>>>>>> L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Received auth challenge; signing > > > > >>>>>>> into > > > > >>>>> gameserver > > > > >>>>>>> account... > > > > >>>>>>> L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Loading map "plr_hightower_event" > > > > >>>>>>> Game server authentication: SUCCESS! Standing: Good. Trend: > > > > >>>>>>> Upward Fast L 10/31/2013 - 06:01:08: Game server > > authentication: > > > > >>>>>>> SUCCESS! > > > > > >>>>>> Standing: > > > > >>>>>>> Good. Trend: Upward Fast > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> I'm not seeing any bad ratings on mine, but quickplay > > > > >>>>>>> traffic just vanished. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lambda" > > > > >>>>>>> <lambdace...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list. > > > > >>>>> ** > > > > >>>>>>> valvesoftware.com > > > > >>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftwa**re.com < > > http://valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftwa > > > > >>>>>>> re.com> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:29 AM > > > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken > > > > >>>>>>> after > > the > > > > >>>>> update? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Same here, i checked the quickplay status and it went from > > "Good" > > > > >>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>> "Bad" > > > > >>>>>>>> out of a sudden, funny thing is that the client command > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > list > > > > >>>>>>>> the identities and the status says that they're all good > > > > >>>>>>>> but upon server launch it says that its "Bad" > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2013/10/31 Calvin Judy <evo...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/bejbG1m.png > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> There has been a significant drop in quickplay traffic > > > > >>>>>>>>> on our servers > > > > >>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>>> well. > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Pettit" < > > > > >>>>>> pettit.t...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > > > >>>>> <hlds_linux@list. > > > > >>>>>> ** > > > > >>>>>>>>> valvesoftware.com > > > > >>>>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.****valvesoftwa**re.com<http://** > > > > >>>>> valvesoftware.co <http://valvesoftware.co> > > > > >>>>>>>>> m> > > > > >>>>> < > > > > >>>>>> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.****com<hlds_linux@list.** > > > > >>>>> valvesoftware. > > > > >>>>>> com> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:13 AM > > > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >>>>> update? > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I noticed Halloween servers running plr_hightower_event > > > > >>>>>>>>> are no > > > > >>>>> longer > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> receiving quickplay traffic after the last update. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Is anyone else having the same issue? 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