I am just saying there will be more because servers who were relying only on ads to fund their servers or generate revenue will surely move into those types of servers.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:51:21 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support There would be regardless if what valve does. Sincerely, Aaron On Nov 6, 2013 6:50 PM, "Todd Pettit" <pettit.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes and now there will be hundreds more jailbreak, freak fortress and > trade servers for you to compete with. > > Good show indeed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:40:53 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support > > I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect me because I run > trade servers and jailbreak, but it seems fine. If you join the server, you > don't have to download any HTML junk and don't have to watch any ads...but > if you like the server, save to favorites and reconnect you see whatever > the HTML page is, depending on whether or not the client has HTML enabled. > Guys, this is a victory for matchmaking clients who just want to play and > not get spammed by the servers they join. I like it. Valve, please roll it > out in a way that doesn't break the game and people like me are cool with > the change #1. Good show! > > Sincerely, > Aaron > On Nov 6, 2013 6:30 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From what I heard ads needed to be watched for X seconds before being > paid. > > Any communities that were reliant on ads being served to quickplay users > > would have already shut down by now. > > > > This new limitation just seems to serve as an annoyance to perfectly > > legitimate server owners rather than to kill off all ad supported > servers. > > > > I hope there will be more people who share my views rather than thinking: > > oh good Valve is going to shut down more of our competition. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, N-Gon <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Oddly enough, a handful of communities have been shut down because of > the > > > recent changes. This one will affect a few more. > > > Can't say I'm saddened by this since those communities were cancer to > > TF2. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Can you tell us the reason for this change? Is there no other > solution > > > > rather than removing functionality from the game? > > > > > > > > The complaint before was forced ads. Servers cannot resend the MOTD > to > > > > quickplay players anymore so I don't understand why additional > > > restrictions > > > > need to be introduced. > > > > > > > > HTML motds are superior to text motds even only shown at connection. > > They > > > > look better and they allow you to update the page without rebooting > the > > > > server. Especially when it comes to TF2 players, no one is going to > pay > > > > attention to an unformatted wall of text that could contain important > > > rules > > > > or links to your website. With these new restrictions both the > webpage > > > and > > > > the text file needs to be maintained. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Fletcher Dunn > > > > <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's something enforced by the client, and is a function of how > they > > > > > connected to that particular server, not any particular server > > > settings. > > > > > > > > > > If they connect via the server browser (or command line, etc) then > > they > > > > > will show HTML. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > > > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Todd > Pettit > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > > support > > > > > > > > > > Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use > html > > on > > > > > quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html > > > > > completely? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com> > > > > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > > > > > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:29:32 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > > support > > > > > > > > > > I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM, DontWannaName! < > > > ad...@topnotchclan.com > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't you just leave the txt file empty? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:22 PM, "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about:blank is no longer valid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Fletcher Dunn > > > > > > > <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's correct; #2 is a Source engine change. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > > > > > > >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle > > > > > > >> Sanderson > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:09 PM > > > > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > > > > > > >> support > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > >> Kyle. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn > > > > > > >> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server > > > > > > >>> operators should be aware of: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 1.) HTML MOTD's will no longer be shown by clients that > > > connect > > > > > via > > > > > > >>> quickplay. Those clients will show the plaintext message > > > instead. > > > > > > >>> (The file identified by the convar motdfile_text, which > > defaults > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > >>> motd_text.txt.) > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 2.) When sending a URL to the "info" panel by name, the > URL > > > must > > > > > > begin > > > > > > >>> with 'http://' or 'https://'. Note that this change does > not > > > > > > >>> affect putting a URL in motd.txt directly, which has always > > > > > > >>> required a protocol prefix in order for the file contents to > be > > > > > > >>> interpreted as a > > > > > > >> URL. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > >>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > >> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > >> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux