There would be regardless if what valve does.

Sincerely,
Aaron
On Nov 6, 2013 6:50 PM, "Todd Pettit" <pettit.t...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes and now there will be hundreds more jailbreak, freak fortress and
> trade servers for you to compete with.
>
> Good show indeed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <
> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:40:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support
>
> I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect me because I run
> trade servers and jailbreak, but it seems fine. If you join the server, you
> don't have to download any HTML junk and don't have to watch any ads...but
> if you like the server, save to favorites and reconnect you see whatever
> the HTML page is, depending on whether or not the client has HTML enabled.
> Guys, this is a victory for matchmaking clients who just want to play and
> not get spammed by the servers they join. I like it. Valve, please roll it
> out in a way that doesn't break the game and people like me are cool with
> the change #1. Good show!
>
> Sincerely,
> Aaron
> On Nov 6, 2013 6:30 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From what I heard ads needed to be watched for X seconds before being
> paid.
> > Any communities that were reliant on ads being served to quickplay users
> > would have already shut down by now.
> >
> > This new limitation just seems to serve as an annoyance to perfectly
> > legitimate server owners rather than to kill off all ad supported
> servers.
> >
> > I hope there will be more people who share my views rather than thinking:
> > oh good Valve is going to shut down more of our competition.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, N-Gon <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oddly enough, a handful of communities have been shut down because of
> the
> > > recent changes. This one will affect a few more.
> > > Can't say I'm saddened by this since those communities were cancer to
> > TF2.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can you tell us the reason for this change? Is there no other
> solution
> > > > rather than removing functionality from the game?
> > > >
> > > > The complaint before was forced ads. Servers cannot resend the MOTD
> to
> > > > quickplay players anymore so I don't understand why additional
> > > restrictions
> > > > need to be introduced.
> > > >
> > > > HTML motds are superior to text motds even only shown at connection.
> > They
> > > > look better and they allow you to update the page without rebooting
> the
> > > > server. Especially when it comes to TF2 players, no one is going to
> pay
> > > > attention to an unformatted wall of text that could contain important
> > > rules
> > > > or links to your website. With these new restrictions both the
> webpage
> > > and
> > > > the text file needs to be maintained.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Fletcher Dunn
> > > > <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's something enforced by the client, and is a function of how
> they
> > > > > connected to that particular server, not any particular server
> > > settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > If they connect via the server browser (or command line, etc) then
> > they
> > > > > will show HTML.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> > > > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Todd
> Pettit
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD
> > support
> > > > >
> > > > > Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use
> html
> > on
> > > > > quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html
> > > > > completely?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <
> > > > > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:29:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD
> > support
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM, DontWannaName! <
> > > ad...@topnotchclan.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Couldn't you just leave the txt file empty?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 5
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:22 PM, "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > about:blank is no longer valid?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Fletcher Dunn
> > > > > > > <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> That's correct; #2 is a Source engine change.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> > > > > > >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle
> > > > > > >> Sanderson
> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:09 PM
> > > > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD
> > > > > > >> support
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> Kyle.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn
> > > > > > >> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server
> > > > > > >>> operators should be aware of:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> 1.)    HTML MOTD's will no longer be shown by clients that
> > > connect
> > > > > via
> > > > > > >>> quickplay.  Those clients will show the plaintext message
> > > instead.
> > > > > > >>> (The file identified by the convar motdfile_text, which
> > defaults
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>> motd_text.txt.)
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> 2.)    When sending a URL to the "info" panel by name, the
> URL
> > > must
> > > > > > begin
> > > > > > >>> with 'http://' or 'https://'.  Note that this change does
> not
> > > > > > >>> affect putting a URL in motd.txt directly, which has always
> > > > > > >>> required a protocol prefix in order for the file contents to
> be
> > > > > > >>> interpreted as a
> > > > > > >> URL.
> > > > > > >>>
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