That wasn't my question Hans. 

Hans Pizka <[email protected]> wrote:

>Why playing it on the bb horn if you have it perfect on the f side ???? Use 
>your double as a 4-valve-  or 5-valve-horn (stop valve included) ??
>
>Very simple solution.
>
>Some Bb horns have the middle g as real "wolf-note", even to be heard clearly 
>from (stubborn)
>widely known soloists, females included, CDs included.
>
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>Am 05.05.2011 um 20:29 schrieb SH:
>
>> I think what I mainly wanted to know is if the change in sound gets any 
>> better the more you play the g on the b horn?  Why is it that all the other 
>> mid notes below g sound much better on the b horn than the g?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Hans Pizka <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Valerie, you used the term "almost". I remember a talk with Rolls-Royce 
>>> airplane engine engineers
>>> in Kobe/Japan 20 years ago. They talked about the problems their Japanese 
>>> colleagues had when tuning these most delicate engines & could not master 
>>> the problems so to call in the British engineers. They (British), suspect 
>>> about the tools used by the Japanese, asked them: "Did you use the original 
>>> tools ?" - "Yes, yes, almost, almost !" - "where these tools original 
>>> Rolls-Royce tools ?", they insisted. "Almost, almost !". - It turned out, 
>>> the Japanese engineers had used tools, which were metric, while the 
>>> originals were after the British measurement in fractions of inches.
>>> 
>>> So it be with your statement "the middle G sound almost identical". What 
>>> does "almost identical" mean ? Identical means 100% the same. But for your 
>>> ears perhaps, but not for the objective listener. It cannot be. If you 
>>> mean, you can lip it into place, the sound cannot be the same, nor can it 
>>> be unlipped, as there are different harmonics involved.
>>> 
>>> You wrote, that it "feels a little different on both sides of your Merker". 
>>> Yes, off course, as these are different harmonics.
>>> 
>>> If you try a certain note on any horn, you MUST NOT lip it up or down nor 
>>> correct it by the use of the right hand.
>>> 
>>> You can start correcting, after you have explored the particular horn in 
>>> full first.
>>> 
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>>> Am 05.05.2011 um 19:32 schrieb valerie wells:
>>> 
>>>> Do you think some of the problems with middle G on the Bb horn may depend 
>>>> on
>>>> the horn?  I have trouble centering the tone & pitch of middle G on my
>>>> single Bb horn, but not on the Bb side of my Holton Merker.  The tone of
>>>> middle G sounds almost identical, yet "feels" a little different, on both
>>>> sides of my Merker.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Valerie Wells
>>>> The Balanced Embouchure Method
>>>> http://bebabe.wordpress.com/
>>>> http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/
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