I agree. I've never met him but I would love to if I'm ever near Pittsburgh 
again. 

I also believe this is him playing the Star Trek theme later in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9UBjrUjwo

-William


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Zyla <[email protected]>
To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 11:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Triple horns


Bill Caballero, principal horn of the Pittsburgh Symphony,  plays a Paxman 

triple all the time.  He has an incredibly huge, glorious sound!  I don't know 

how much he uses the high f side, but I have never heard better horn playing in 

my life.

Luke Zyla



On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:



> Good point. I hadn't thought about airlines either.

> 

> Regarding Beethoven 7, the descant that I have (an older, much heavier Schmid 

descant possibly built in the late 1980s) seems to do fairly well in the high 

register in terms of loudness - that is to say if I use an older, much thicker 

bell on it.

> 

> I'm on the fence about that excerpt though on my descant, so maybe one day 

I'll have a blind test. I've never really liked Beethoven 7 being too loud 

though. Some do, some don't.

> 

> -William

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Debbie Schmidt <[email protected]>

> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>

> Cc: The Horn List <[email protected]>

> Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 8:19 pm

> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Triple horns

> 

> 

> A couple of additional thoughts:

> 

> 1. Airlines no longer allow you to carry 2 horns on board unless you buy an 

> 

> extra seat. Many first horn auditions have Brandenburg for which a descent/ 

> 

> smaller horn is called for from a sound perspective . So those on the 
> audition 



> 

> circuit are choosing triples to deal with the demands of audition lists.

> 

> 

> 

> 2. Those of us that play in settings that are amplified and have in some 
> cases 



> 

> 16 shows a week pick horns for not missing and ease of execution over pure 

sound 

> 

> quality.  Many times there is no mix between house and amplified because you 

are 

> 

> in a room backstage.

> 

> 3. I have been on recording dates for jingles where the composer said let's 

move 

> 

> this up a step to a brighter key. 

> 

> We had done 7 or 8 takes and in the new key my notes were written high D's 
> the 



> 

> triple was very useful.

> 

> I do own a Schmid double and triple hands down the low F side is better on 
> the 



> 

> double.

> 

> The high Eb side on the triples is a learning curve against the fingerings we 

> 

> grew up with it has no advantages for transposition.

> 

> If you can find a triple that the meat of the range sounds great the high F 

side 

> 

> allows additional sound colors and variations much more than added security. 

> 

> I just do not have a sound concept of Beethoven 7 that is consistent with a 

> 

> descant. That is a big heroic call not a small Brandenurg fleeting phrase of 

> 

> 16ths. So although I would play the bminor and Brandenburg at an audition or 

at 

> 

> work on a small horn I always play Beethoven 7 on my double.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone 

> 

> 

> 

> On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Robert Ward <[email protected]> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

>> Hi Steve,

> 

>> 

> 

>> Thanks for your reply - you take a very evenhanded and fair approach, and of 

> 

> course there is a lot of truth in what you write. We are all different. My 

point 

> 

> in writing was to pass along some of my thoughts as to what the consequences 

of 

> 

> certain choices are, since I've had a lot of experience along the way, in 

hopes 

> 

> that it will help someone make a better choice.  Many times players choose 

> 

> equipment to rectify technical problems, a strategy which has no chance of 

> 

> success. There are no shortcuts. I also think that when we stray too far from 

> 

> our roots on the instruments, the results are not what we intend sometimes.  

> 

>> 

> 

>> In the SFS we do not force people to play certain instruments.  But at our 

> 

> auditions, we choose people who sound like we do, and more often than not, 

they 

> 

> are already on that path. It's pretty easy to hear, and we have chosen 
> players 



> 

> that are terrific musicians and who fit in.

> 

>> 

> 

>> Best of luck - and enjoy the rest of your summer.

> 

>> 

> 

>> B

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> Robert N. Ward

> 

>> Principal Horn

> 

>> San Francisco Symphony

> 

>> [email protected]

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Steve Freides wrote:

> 

>> 

> 

>>> I take a very simple approach to all these things - would you tell

> 

>>> your automobile mechanic, or the carpenter building your new kitchen

> 

>>> cabinets which tool to use?  Of course not - both know it's their

> 

>>> responsibility to select the right tool for each part of the job and

> 

>>> that, in the end, it's the results that matter, not how they got

> 

>>> there.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> Same thing here, IMHO - find a horn that lets you play the music you

> 

>>> want or need to play and that's that.  Some people will do best with a

> 

>>> triple, others won't, and some really smart horn players will bring

> 

>>> out the triple when they need it but use another horn when the other

> 

>>> horn is best suited to the job at hand.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> I realize that if you play in the horn section of a professional

> 

>>> orchestra, you often are required to make equipment choices along the

> 

>>> same lines are your colleagues, but for most of us, I think job one is

> 

>>> to play the music.  If a triple helps you get there, then by all

> 

>>> means, use a triple.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> The harder question is whether or not someone who hasn't used a triple

> 

>>> ought to try one, and there's simply no answer to that question that

> 

>>> can be had - you won't know until you try it whether or not it's for

> 

>>> you.  This is a great reason to purchase a used instrument, IMHO - you

> 

>>> can, if you're patient and if you don't overpay to begin with, sell it

> 

>>> a few months down the road for exactly what you paid for it, coming

> 

>>> away from the entire experience none the poorer but some the wiser.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> Me, I'd be happy to have such problems in my horn playing - I'm

> 

>>> thrilled when I play the right notes, in tune, at the right times.

> 

>>> But I think the principles here are pretty universal - the horn is a

> 

>>> tool, playing the music is the job, and one should use the best tools

> 

>>> one can afford to own that aid in getting the job done as well as

> 

>>> possible.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

> 

>>> 

> 

>>> -S-

> 

>> 

> 

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