It would be silly to ignore the apparent distress of animal life whilst looking for EM pollution levers on humankind. I'm sure there are connections- my hazard comment was understatement. I'm English!
On Jul 5, 5:45 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we can gather more than just a Yes insects are affected. The > bees are dying out. Fruit gnats seem to forced into a rythm of > figure 8's I have noticed on many occasions. The bees dying should of > alerted us to something amiss, kind of like canaries of the coal > mnes. I have been studing the ants, a selection of > them seem to be losing their way, and zig zagging away from contact > with > another ants. > > On Jul 4, 11:40 pm, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The recordings of the Hum were based on some experiments that I made > > several years ago in which I attempted to make an enlarged model of > > one cilia of the inner ear, these are minute hairs which detect > > gravity and movement. > > The present set-up I am using is rather large and cumbersome and > > there is a need for a small portable unit which can be easily > > transported to various locations and buildings and this is the task > > at the moment. > > > Some thoughts on gravity detectors - although the cilia of the human > > inner ear is comparatively small consider the requirements of an > > insect such as a gnat or midge, they move at quite high accelerations > > and need to determine inertia and gravity precisely, it may be that > > the detector of such small creatures is on a molecular level. > > A further question is, are insects affected by the Hum? > > > On Jul 5, 4:48 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > PS : My hum is much more like my synthed Hum.basic - one above JDs' > > > here. > > > Johns' is less resonant -and more 'buzzy' ! > > > [More of the raw precursor of 'Hum in the Wild', to me]. > > > > On Jul 5, 4:31 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Did you get the sound wav file lower down the list - JD Hum09 , Dee? > > > > > On Jul 5, 12:58 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > John Ok that is what I see of my hum, a form of that vibrational > > > > > pattern. I can close my eyes and see that form of vibration. But it > > > > > has different layers, and it doesn't spin in just one direction. It > > > > > has the capacity to reverse direction > > > > > But also, when the energy is dialed up, it has multiple layers > > > > > spinning of this form of a vibrational energy, kind of like a > > > > > quadapole. Sometimes sort of like that Karate Kid movie of "Wax on > > > > > Wax off" of flow of direction. > > > > > Before I ever founds others hearing this, back in 2005 my security > > > > > camera would discern 2 moving circles in the middle of the frame. A > > > > > circle on the left turning clockwise and another circle on right side > > > > > turning counterclockwise. > > > > > > But this vibrational energy of yours that Trev uploaded, I see that > > > > > vibrational > > > > > energy field when I close my eyelids. > > > > > > So my common sense says you captured one of its layers. > > > > > > On Jul 1, 1:55 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I now get the same 404 error as you did Dee- but [ earlier ] I did > > > > > > some light analysis on Johns data and posted the files on our files > > > > > > list here [ find them - Above right, & below Pages] > > > > > > I've now added a shortened clip of the Hum sound John picked up as > > > > > > well - JD Hum.wav. > > > > > > All these recent files are prefaced JD. > > > > > > I hope that's OK John? > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 9:34 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > But this method you speak of sounds very plausible. Because in > > > > > > > essence the Hum is a form of a vibration. > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 7:41 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This experiment was purely mechanical, the recording was taken > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the movement of a vibrating mass, there was no connection with > > > > > > > > radio > > > > > > > > transmissions of any kind. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 12:22 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What do you attribute the approx 5KHz bandspread to? > > > > > > > > > It seems to have a sharp cut off indicating perhaps that this > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > equipment limit -but this would need an analysis of the > > > > > > > > > mechanics > > > > > > > > > involved in the measurements- whilst the source stays out of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > picture. > > > > > > > > > I suggest the LF cut off could be due to the higher amounts > > > > > > > > > of energy > > > > > > > > > increasingly needed to drive natural mechanisms at LF whereas > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > a lot HF free energy flying about from the Sun and upper > > > > > > > > > atmosphere > > > > > > > > > lightning activity. > > > > > > > > > I have to allow that cloud charges are static and unipolar > > > > > > > > > until they > > > > > > > > > discharge- but that would be mostly a stable state. > > > > > > > > > Your results seem to show a stable presentation though- over > > > > > > > > > time very > > > > > > > > > little deviation apart from the LF modulation @ 200ms shown > > > > > > > > > on the Mod > > > > > > > > > trace. > > > > > > > > > The 9 ms chopping effect looks how I imagine the switched > > > > > > > > > Police radio > > > > > > > > > channels[Tetra] would present. > > > > > > > > > Is that a possibility ? - though the p.r. frequency's a bit > > > > > > > > > out from > > > > > > > > > 16 Hz. > > > > > > > > > It's quite possibly a secondary system running or an > > > > > > > > > unpublished > > > > > > > > > switch of channel hopping freq would explain this. > > > > > > > > > I know you have stated: this energy is neither a sound wave > > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > radio wave > > > > > > > > > - but the parallels are there. > > > > > > > > > Other [unknown] mechanisms could interface the modes of energy > > > > > > > > > transfer. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 5:01 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As I have tried to make clear, it was not my to intension > > > > > > > > > > to mimic the > > > > > > > > > > sound we hear. > > > > > > > > > > The experiment is very simple, to set a small mass into > > > > > > > > > > vibration over > > > > > > > > > > the range of frequencies from about 20 to 100 cycles per > > > > > > > > > > second and > > > > > > > > > > observe the motion that takes place. > > > > > > > > > > I found that a 2 points above and below 50 cycles per > > > > > > > > > > second the > > > > > > > > > > vibrating mass exhibit’s a modulation that should not be > > > > > > > > > > there and the > > > > > > > > > > only conclusion can be that some form of energy is > > > > > > > > > > effecting what > > > > > > > > > > should be the simple harmonic motion of the vibrating mass > > > > > > > > > > and that > > > > > > > > > > this energy is neither a sound wave or a radio wave. > > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be difficult if not impossible to > > > > > > > > > > determine if > > > > > > > > > > everybody perceives exactly the same noise, this is a very > > > > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > > > subject, for some sufferers experience the effects > > > > > > > > > > throughout the > > > > > > > > > > whole of their body. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 3:00 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Something else I meant to mention in the SA file ,apart > > > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > repetitive freq spread (indicating either some possible > > > > > > > > > > > aliasing or > > > > > > > > > > > even artifact in the source), is that the 'cut offs' of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > fundamental are limits of what many people report as Hum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine , at the low end of 27 Hz, and upper- at 80 Hz, as > > > > > > > > > > > the usual max > > > > > > > > > > > of others where it tangles (intermodulates?) with mains > > > > > > > > > > > supply freq. > > > > > > > > > > > causing the annoying beat 'throb', that wears so. > > > > > > > > > > > This is shown as the wide yellow band at the base of the > > > > > > > > > > > the spectrum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes!, wideband, repetitive and suspiciously clean- all in > > > > > > > > > > > all, coupled > > > > > > > > > > > with the unique measurement technique makes this more > > > > > > > > > > > than a chance > > > > > > > > > > > occurence. > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your thoughts John? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 11:39 pm, Pete <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got my computer output wired up to a NAD amplifier > > > > > > > > > > > > with some good > > > > > > > > > > > > bass responsive Acoustic Research loudspeakers out > > > > > > > > > > > > putting the sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if the volume is turned right down until I just > > > > > > > > > > > > about hear this > > > > > > > > > > > > MP3, and the imagine it's in my head rather than coming > > > > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > > speakers, then it's pretty damn close. 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