JD: Are insects affected by the Hum? I would hazard a Yes! A lot of bees are dying off , it's even getting to attract comments about risks to human food production- in the not too far future. EM interference isn't as high on the list as the mite problem but direction finding is important to all foraging animals, including us! The 'gnat HF buzz' trialled for teenager dispersal around shopping malls shows this. Ours may well be only a higher order now,[esp. us oldies]- but as animals, we are still closely connected to many buried capapbilities, actually looking like newts at an early stage in fetal development.
A good line of thought John- If Hum is culpable it will not stay in the box long! Nothing like an angry starving mob... On Jul 5, 7:40 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > The recordings of the Hum were based on some experiments that I made > several years ago in which I attempted to make an enlarged model of > one cilia of the inner ear, these are minute hairs which detect > gravity and movement. > The present set-up I am using is rather large and cumbersome and > there is a need for a small portable unit which can be easily > transported to various locations and buildings and this is the task > at the moment. > > Some thoughts on gravity detectors - although the cilia of the human > inner ear is comparatively small consider the requirements of an > insect such as a gnat or midge, they move at quite high accelerations > and need to determine inertia and gravity precisely, it may be that > the detector of such small creatures is on a molecular level. > A further question is, are insects affected by the Hum? > > On Jul 5, 4:48 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > PS : My hum is much more like my synthed Hum.basic - one above JDs' > > here. > > Johns' is less resonant -and more 'buzzy' ! > > [More of the raw precursor of 'Hum in the Wild', to me]. > > > On Jul 5, 4:31 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Did you get the sound wav file lower down the list - JD Hum09 , Dee? > > > > On Jul 5, 12:58 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > John Ok that is what I see of my hum, a form of that vibrational > > > > pattern. I can close my eyes and see that form of vibration. But it > > > > has different layers, and it doesn't spin in just one direction. It > > > > has the capacity to reverse direction > > > > But also, when the energy is dialed up, it has multiple layers > > > > spinning of this form of a vibrational energy, kind of like a > > > > quadapole. Sometimes sort of like that Karate Kid movie of "Wax on > > > > Wax off" of flow of direction. > > > > Before I ever founds others hearing this, back in 2005 my security > > > > camera would discern 2 moving circles in the middle of the frame. A > > > > circle on the left turning clockwise and another circle on right side > > > > turning counterclockwise. > > > > > But this vibrational energy of yours that Trev uploaded, I see that > > > > vibrational > > > > energy field when I close my eyelids. > > > > > So my common sense says you captured one of its layers. > > > > > On Jul 1, 1:55 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I now get the same 404 error as you did Dee- but [ earlier ] I did > > > > > some light analysis on Johns data and posted the files on our files > > > > > list here [ find them - Above right, & below Pages] > > > > > I've now added a shortened clip of the Hum sound John picked up as > > > > > well - JD Hum.wav. > > > > > All these recent files are prefaced JD. > > > > > I hope that's OK John? > > > > > > On Jul 1, 9:34 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > But this method you speak of sounds very plausible. Because in > > > > > > essence the Hum is a form of a vibration. > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 7:41 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This experiment was purely mechanical, the recording was taken > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > the movement of a vibrating mass, there was no connection with > > > > > > > radio > > > > > > > transmissions of any kind. > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 12:22 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What do you attribute the approx 5KHz bandspread to? > > > > > > > > It seems to have a sharp cut off indicating perhaps that this an > > > > > > > > equipment limit -but this would need an analysis of the > > > > > > > > mechanics > > > > > > > > involved in the measurements- whilst the source stays out of the > > > > > > > > picture. > > > > > > > > I suggest the LF cut off could be due to the higher amounts of > > > > > > > > energy > > > > > > > > increasingly needed to drive natural mechanisms at LF whereas > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > a lot HF free energy flying about from the Sun and upper > > > > > > > > atmosphere > > > > > > > > lightning activity. > > > > > > > > I have to allow that cloud charges are static and unipolar > > > > > > > > until they > > > > > > > > discharge- but that would be mostly a stable state. > > > > > > > > Your results seem to show a stable presentation though- over > > > > > > > > time very > > > > > > > > little deviation apart from the LF modulation @ 200ms shown on > > > > > > > > the Mod > > > > > > > > trace. > > > > > > > > The 9 ms chopping effect looks how I imagine the switched > > > > > > > > Police radio > > > > > > > > channels[Tetra] would present. > > > > > > > > Is that a possibility ? - though the p.r. frequency's a bit out > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > 16 Hz. > > > > > > > > It's quite possibly a secondary system running or an unpublished > > > > > > > > switch of channel hopping freq would explain this. > > > > > > > > I know you have stated: this energy is neither a sound wave or > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > radio wave > > > > > > > > - but the parallels are there. > > > > > > > > Other [unknown] mechanisms could interface the modes of energy > > > > > > > > transfer. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 5:01 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As I have tried to make clear, it was not my to intension to > > > > > > > > > mimic the > > > > > > > > > sound we hear. > > > > > > > > > The experiment is very simple, to set a small mass into > > > > > > > > > vibration over > > > > > > > > > the range of frequencies from about 20 to 100 cycles per > > > > > > > > > second and > > > > > > > > > observe the motion that takes place. > > > > > > > > > I found that a 2 points above and below 50 cycles per second > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > vibrating mass exhibit’s a modulation that should not be > > > > > > > > > there and the > > > > > > > > > only conclusion can be that some form of energy is effecting > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > should be the simple harmonic motion of the vibrating mass > > > > > > > > > and that > > > > > > > > > this energy is neither a sound wave or a radio wave. > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be difficult if not impossible to determine > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > everybody perceives exactly the same noise, this is a very > > > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > > subject, for some sufferers experience the effects > > > > > > > > > throughout the > > > > > > > > > whole of their body. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 3:00 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Something else I meant to mention in the SA file ,apart > > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > repetitive freq spread (indicating either some possible > > > > > > > > > > aliasing or > > > > > > > > > > even artifact in the source), is that the 'cut offs' of the > > > > > > > > > > fundamental are limits of what many people report as Hum. > > > > > > > > > > > Mine , at the low end of 27 Hz, and upper- at 80 Hz, as the > > > > > > > > > > usual max > > > > > > > > > > of others where it tangles (intermodulates?) with mains > > > > > > > > > > supply freq. > > > > > > > > > > causing the annoying beat 'throb', that wears so. > > > > > > > > > > This is shown as the wide yellow band at the base of the > > > > > > > > > > the spectrum. > > > > > > > > > > > Yes!, wideband, repetitive and suspiciously clean- all in > > > > > > > > > > all, coupled > > > > > > > > > > with the unique measurement technique makes this more than > > > > > > > > > > a chance > > > > > > > > > > occurence. > > > > > > > > > > > What are your thoughts John? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 11:39 pm, Pete <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got my computer output wired up to a NAD amplifier > > > > > > > > > > > with some good > > > > > > > > > > > bass responsive Acoustic Research loudspeakers out > > > > > > > > > > > putting the sound. > > > > > > > > > > > So, if the volume is turned right down until I just about > > > > > > > > > > > hear this > > > > > > > > > > > MP3, and the imagine it's in my head rather than coming > > > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > speakers, then it's pretty damn close. 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