Shmuel I think you may have me - finally. But you should have said that the clever machines which allowed customization - using customization of the device, let's be clear about that - of the default (primary) dimensions, namely, using your input, the 3180 and 3179[1], are a "newer", not "older", generation of 3270s, given that my example was a 3278.
... at least I think that's what you are claiming. This is interesting since using such devices - if anyone still has them - or, I would expect, later generations of 3270 displays which had a fancy name I can't remember - was it something weird like InfoTerminal or InfoSystem? - it would be possible to exercise Edward Jaffe's "enhancement" using these devices. It's interesting that he didn't consider 3270 display devices in the "NextGen 3270" document, only 3270 emulators. You're also right that the "Query Reply" is not relevant when considering how the 7F option may be used. Nevertheless, I believe with some 3270 applications (probably not TSO given the hammering it gets from savvy users) you had better allow "Erase Write" to cause the presentation space to assume dimensions of 24 rows and 80 columns, mainly because "older" subapplications, perhaps customer-written and lacking ongoing support, will assume the "Model 2" dimensions. On the other hand I can't make sense of "No, I was talking about the dimensions on the 3275 and 3277, which didn't have EWA or Read Partition Query." [1] My presentation notes say that the 3179, specifically the 3179G, does not support the use of the "unspecified screen size" BIND. This is the sort of point I would have made only having tested it. Chris Mason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: <IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, 29 August, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: >27x132? > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/29/2006 > at 04:48 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >You took the quote for your second point out of context. > > No. You forgot that there was an older generation of 3270's. > > >"typically" was added because the "Query Reply" > > There didn't use to be a Query Reply; that came later. > > >I believe you are talking about dimensions you set using the X'7F' > >code in the penultimate byte of the PSERVIC operand. > > No, I was talking about the dimensions on the 3275 and 3277, which > didn't have EWA or Read Partition Query. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html