I believe IBM produced a pc with a 370 to run VM on a PC.  Merrill Lynch
had one.  Somewhere in the late 80's I believe.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Timothy Sipples1 <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, there are organizations that use zEnterprise servers for "heavy
> numeric computation." Like decimal floating point. Cryptography is another
> excellent example. And you can buy optional CryptoExpress adapters if you
> want to augment the excellent capabilities found in every machine. You can
> also buy the optional zBladeCenter Extension (zBX) if you want to add
> DataPower accelerators, Power blades, and/or X86 blades. You can also add
> an optional IBM DB2 Analytics Accelerator, to boost many types of DB2
> queries. So we're way ahead of you, John. ;-)
>
> I think the simple answer is that it depends what you optimize for in
> designing a server processor (or complex). But IBM has broken a lot of
> "rules" already about which server should do what, and I predict more rules
> will be broken.
>
> With respect to the 370-on-a-chip, IBM sort of did that with the 1975
> introduction of the IBM 5100 Portable Computer starting at $8,975 (1975
> dollars), although it was for a relatively narrow initial purpose (to get
> APL running). The 5100 sold reasonably well from what I've read, but I
> think there were three basic problems which prevented it from becoming a
> blockbuster:
>
> 1. The price was not low enough for mass market appeal. (Apple had a
> similar problem with the Lisa in the early 1980s.)
>
> 2. The software selection didn't exactly hit the mark, although it was a
> good try for the time. (IBM learned the value of software somewhat later in
> its evolution but not in time for the 1981 IBM PC.)
>
> 3. It probably didn't have the right third party marketing and distribution
> channels. With some very notable exceptions, like typewriters, at that time
> IBM would have had some challenges with this type of product.
>
> Keep in mind that for 1975 this was absolutely amazing technology, but
> amazing technology required some expense. Being early is pricey. If the
> 5100 debuted in, say, 1977 or 1978, it would have still been well timed but
> could have dramatically reduced the chip and board count. I also think the
> small built-in monitor could have been sacrified (at least as an option) in
> favor of a display port of some kind -- ideally RF for TV hookup. And IBM
> might have gone with a diskette drive for storage -- the 5100 was too early
> for the 5.25 inch drive, which debuted in 1976. Finally, if IBM had
> provided a little more guidance on the 370 subset instruction set they
> implemented, software developers could have taken over from there.
>
> So I think the 5100 could have been a nice 5110 by tweaking the recipe a
> bit. But history didn't happen that way.
>
> IBM had some success with the System/4 Pi avionics processors which are
> descended from System/360.
>
>
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