Don, Dude a lot of vendors, like ourselves run Z/Pdt
Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Don Williams <donb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > System z is not cheap (does it start around $1M?). I expect the traditional > mainframe operating systems, like z/OS, z/VM, etc., to have a significant > price tag. I'm not sure what the pricing is for the zLinux variety of > operating system. Free does not get you business class support. Add to that > the environment, DASD, etc., it's hard for the startup vendor to put all > that in his garage :-) > > It seems like they are trying to prevent the creation of smaller more > affordable "mainframes". What happened to P/390, FLEX-ES? Is there any way > to legally run z/OS on Hercules? If a small vendor needs coupling > facilities, I think he is out of luck. > > Don > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of John McKown >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:42 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points >> >> I am not sure, but the PC in impinging on the z in many ways. IMO, one >> reason is that some very creative people can afford their own PC and >> tools (especially if they use Linux). The investment is very low >> compared to a z. And the "vendor" can then market the product to many >> more people. Most every office in the world has PC class servers. Take >> the EMR package. If it is priced correctly and easy to use, then the >> market into local doctor's offices is immense compared to, say, only >> into a major hospital (which could possibly afford a z). I know my >> personal doctor has some sort of PC based software. I see them (and my >> dentist) using it. And the doctor no longer writes physical >> prescriptions. He just enters it into his laptop; it then ends up >> going to my pharmacy; and they send a text to my phone when it is >> ready to pick up. I really don't see much of any reason for >> "application level" code on the z any more. Things like DB2, maybe. >> But CICS? Sorry, it is simply easier to create a "web" based >> transaction using WAS or JBOSS or Tomcat on a server. Doing so is more >> cost efficient for our size (and shrinking) business. The only reason >> we continue with CICS/COBOL is that we do incremental changes. We >> don't have the money to convert from CICS or batch COBOL to something >> else (likely Microsoft .NET based <shudder/>). >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Don Williams <donb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> In my company's case, it's not a matter of asking our vendor to work >> with >>> IBM. The vendor already works with IBM, but has chosen to phase out >> their >>> mainframe product and create a new one that runs on PC-based servers. >> For >>> various reasons, the hospital decided to open the field and look for >> a new >>> Electronic Medical Record (EMR) package across all platforms. My >>> understanding is that there is no viable EMR package available on the >> z/OS >>> platform. This made me wonder -- is there no EMR vendor who chose to >>> develop their product on the z/OS platform? I expect that successful >>> vendors carefully chose their platform(s). If they are not chosing >> z/OS, >>> why not? >> >> -- >> Maranatha! <>< >> John McKown >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
