So David, you consider using ISPF panels a net negative? I used to write dialogs for anything repetitive that I or anyone else had to do. Never thought it was bad if "people in charge are by-the-book mentality and I can imagine them using ISPF Panels for everything from RACF to SMP/e." Especially when I was the person in charge. And I knew what the CBT tape was and is....

Doug Fuerst

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Hi Brian,
You said: "...so why would they question my use of anything I need in order to 
perform my job efficiently?  ..."
My answer is that the people in charge are by-the-book mentality and I can 
imagine them using ISPF Panels for everything from RACF to SMP/e.
(At one of my jobs, the MVS Team Lead said : "CBT??? ... never heard of it" 
(This guy has been an MVS Systems Programmer for more than 30 years.))
These same people eschew creativity in any form, because, they're scared due to 
ignorance.

Regards,
David

On 2023-02-21 00:31, Brian Westerman wrote:
I think that's a pretty invalid point.  I don't see anyone questioning how to 
write an exit or install a new system, or use SMPe, so why would they question 
my use of anything I need in order to perform my job efficiently?

Maybe it's just that they all assume I must know what I'm doing.  If they 
didn't believe that, I doubt they would have asked me to do the project.

Brian

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