Recruiters are like tech writes; a good one can be extremely helpful, a bad one 
can be just a hindrance.

I once interviewed a candidate who, after hearing the job description, asked 
why he had been sent. It turns out that my employer was using the low bidder, 
and they just flung résumés at the wall and saw what stuck.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Subject: Re: Help for US Talent

I get tons of emails from offshore recruiters. Some are geared toward my listed 
experience. But there are some that do not come close. The only thing that 
matches me is the state I live in.

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On Aug 14, 2023, 7:32 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:

> I haven't had any recruiters ask me about forklifts, but yeah, I do get some 
> that just match me up with "something computer-related" and contact me about 
> that. But it occurs to me belatedly that you're talking about phone calls. I 
> don't know what you and I are doing differently, but most recruiters email 
> me, and the rare phone calls I get are (so far) all w real gigs for me, I 
> mean gigs that I might conceivably be interested in. The ones that aren't a 
> good match, or when it's two or three recruiters from the same company 
> contacting me about the same req, those all come from just one or two 
> recruiting companies. But they almost never know my name, and I can throw 
> their emails in my Junk folder without pangs of conscience. Mostly if a 
> recruiter knows my name (I mean, addresses his email to me and not just to 
> "Greetings"), I take the trouble to reply politely. They're still my source 
> of work, after all. And I may suddenly need to come out of my 
> semi-retirement, in which case I want them to think well of me. --- Bob 
> Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The art of not reading 
> is a very important one. It consists in not taking an interest in whatever 
> may be engaging the attention of the general public at any particular time. 
> When some political or ecclesiastical pamphlet, or novel, or poem is making a 
> great commotion, you should remember that he who writes for fools always 
> finds a large public. A precondition for reading good books is not reading 
> bad ones: for life is short. -Schopenhauer */ -----Original Message----- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of Grant Taylor Sent: Monday, 
> August 14, 2023 18:43 I've dealt with way too many bad recruiters this year. 
> I've told them up front, what I'm looking for in very clear and concise 
> manner. I clearly provided; salary, location / remote, and job function. Too 
> many of them would inquire if I wanted to drive a forklift or install cable 
> TV wiring in a completely different state across the country. It got to the 
> point that I would ban recruiter companies from my mail server after the 3rd 
> such wildly incorrect inquiry. It's routine for different recruiters from the 
> same company to reach out, thinking that filtering is based on email address. 
> I've even had a recruiting company stop sending from their company email 
> addresses and use Gmail in order to avoid email filters. These are the low 
> ball recruiters that I want to simply go away and stop talking to me. --- On 
> 8/14/23 3:23 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > Am I missing something? Why the 
> interest in making life hard for > recruiters? Ok, I'm a contractor so my 
> continued employment depends > on their existence. Still, why? > > If I 
> thought that you normally work under those conditions - $125/hr > or outside 
> the US half the time - then of course you're just stating > up front one of 
> your requirements. From the tone, though, it sounds > like you're trying to 
> make them unhappy for the fun of it. Is there > something going on here that 
> I'm not aware of? 
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